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	<title>Comments on: Shareholder Files Appeal Of Sirius XM Merger</title>
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		<title>By: steve mazz</title>
		<link>http://siriusbuzz.com/shareholder-files-appeal-of-sirius-xm-merger.php/comment-page-5#comment-96009</link>
		<dc:creator>steve mazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stern factor how much is Karmzin going to give Stern to stay another 5 years. I listen to Stern 95% of the time. Sirius needs to sign Stern but at what cost.STERN IS SIRIUS ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stern factor how much is Karmzin going to give Stern to stay another 5 years. I listen to Stern 95% of the time. Sirius needs to sign Stern but at what cost.STERN IS SIRIUS &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Matthews</title>
		<link>http://siriusbuzz.com/shareholder-files-appeal-of-sirius-xm-merger.php/comment-page-5#comment-96008</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you missed it.

&quot;...it must “articulate a satisfactory explanation for its action including a ‘rational connection between the facts found and the choice made.’&quot;


http://siriusbuzz.com/opinion-sirius-xm-merger-appeal.php</description>
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<p>&#8220;&#8230;it must “articulate a satisfactory explanation for its action including a ‘rational connection between the facts found and the choice made.’&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://siriusbuzz.com/opinion-sirius-xm-merger-appeal.php" rel="nofollow">http://siriusbuzz.com/opinion-.....appeal.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: homer985</title>
		<link>http://siriusbuzz.com/shareholder-files-appeal-of-sirius-xm-merger.php/comment-page-5#comment-96001</link>
		<dc:creator>homer985</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW shark -- this is for you... This is from the CBS vs FCC decision from earlier this year, via the US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. CBS filed a &lt;b&gt;&quot;Petition for Review&lt;/b&gt; of FCC orders, just like Hartlieb did. This may help shed some light on the process and the Circuit Courts jurisdiction of the case:

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&lt;i&gt;Our standard of review of agency decisions is governed by the Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. § 706. Under the Administrative Procedure Act, we &quot;hold unlawful and set aside agency action, findings, and conclusions&quot; that are found to be &quot;arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in accordance with the law.&quot; 

The scope of review under the &quot;arbitrary and capricious&quot; standard is &quot;narrow, and a court is not to substitute its judgment for that of the agency.&quot; Nevertheless, the agency must reach its decision by &quot;examin[ing] the relevant data,&quot; and it must &quot;articulate a satisfactory explanation for its action including a &#039;rational connection between the facts found and the choice made.&#039; We generally find agency action arbitrary and capricious where:

The agency has relied on factors which Congress has not intended it to consider, entirely failed to consider an important aspect of the problem, offered an explanation for its decision that runs counter to the evidence before the agency, or is so implausible that it could not be ascribed to a difference in view or the product of agency expertise. The reviewing court should not attempt itself to make up for such deficiencies; we may not supply a reasoned basis for the agency’s action that the agency itself has not given.&lt;/i&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW shark &#8212; this is for you&#8230; This is from the CBS vs FCC decision from earlier this year, via the US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. CBS filed a <b>&#8220;Petition for Review</b> of FCC orders, just like Hartlieb did. This may help shed some light on the process and the Circuit Courts jurisdiction of the case:</p>
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<p><i>Our standard of review of agency decisions is governed by the Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. § 706. Under the Administrative Procedure Act, we &#8220;hold unlawful and set aside agency action, findings, and conclusions&#8221; that are found to be &#8220;arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in accordance with the law.&#8221; </p>
<p>The scope of review under the &#8220;arbitrary and capricious&#8221; standard is &#8220;narrow, and a court is not to substitute its judgment for that of the agency.&#8221; Nevertheless, the agency must reach its decision by &#8220;examin[ing] the relevant data,&#8221; and it must &#8220;articulate a satisfactory explanation for its action including a &#8216;rational connection between the facts found and the choice made.&#8217; We generally find agency action arbitrary and capricious where:</p>
<p>The agency has relied on factors which Congress has not intended it to consider, entirely failed to consider an important aspect of the problem, offered an explanation for its decision that runs counter to the evidence before the agency, or is so implausible that it could not be ascribed to a difference in view or the product of agency expertise. The reviewing court should not attempt itself to make up for such deficiencies; we may not supply a reasoned basis for the agency’s action that the agency itself has not given.</i></p>
<p>Hope this helps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: homer985</title>
		<link>http://siriusbuzz.com/shareholder-files-appeal-of-sirius-xm-merger.php/comment-page-5#comment-95999</link>
		<dc:creator>homer985</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shark say:
&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;What’s the point of this post? Things happen…should Fox News have aired that mooning? No, but they did. Get over it.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;


Exactly, I agree... however, under current FCC regulations (had this been a broadcast station and not a cable station) -- although this would undoubtedly be found to be fleeting -- the broadcast station would still be found to be in violation of their broadcast license. They would be liable to be sanctioned by the FCC accordingly. But they wouldn&#039;t take their license. The FCC rarely takes a license. Especially under the definition of being &quot;unfit&quot;. Which has been my point to Hartlieb for quite some time.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shark say:<br />
<b><i>&#8220;What’s the point of this post? Things happen…should Fox News have aired that mooning? No, but they did. Get over it.&#8221;</i></b></p>
<p>Exactly, I agree&#8230; however, under current FCC regulations (had this been a broadcast station and not a cable station) &#8212; although this would undoubtedly be found to be fleeting &#8212; the broadcast station would still be found to be in violation of their broadcast license. They would be liable to be sanctioned by the FCC accordingly. But they wouldn&#8217;t take their license. The FCC rarely takes a license. Especially under the definition of being &#8220;unfit&#8221;. Which has been my point to Hartlieb for quite some time.</p>
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		<title>By: shark</title>
		<link>http://siriusbuzz.com/shareholder-files-appeal-of-sirius-xm-merger.php/comment-page-5#comment-95998</link>
		<dc:creator>shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homer says:  &quot;....Do you understand that allowing obscene language to go over the airwaves is also a violation of a broadcast license? How many licenses has the FCC revoked over the years for violating this?....&quot;

Yesterday, I was watching Fox News, when they were broadcasting live from Florida huricane area, and someone in the background &quot;mooned&quot; the camera as they were interviewing them about whey they stayed, and the person&#039;s ass, including crack, was visibly displaced.  I have Dish DVR, so I replayed it to see if it really happened, and yes, it did!

What&#039;s the point of this post?  Things happen...should Fox News have aired that mooning?  No, but they did.  Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homer says:  &#8220;&#8230;.Do you understand that allowing obscene language to go over the airwaves is also a violation of a broadcast license? How many licenses has the FCC revoked over the years for violating this?&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yesterday, I was watching Fox News, when they were broadcasting live from Florida huricane area, and someone in the background &#8220;mooned&#8221; the camera as they were interviewing them about whey they stayed, and the person&#8217;s ass, including crack, was visibly displaced.  I have Dish DVR, so I replayed it to see if it really happened, and yes, it did!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of this post?  Things happen&#8230;should Fox News have aired that mooning?  No, but they did.  Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: homer985</title>
		<link>http://siriusbuzz.com/shareholder-files-appeal-of-sirius-xm-merger.php/comment-page-5#comment-95994</link>
		<dc:creator>homer985</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merger Supporter Says:
&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;And that is ALL this is about.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
 
MergerSupporter... I agree with you. I believe that this has become personal and therefore selfish on Hartlieb&#039;s part.</description>
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<b><i>And that is ALL this is about.</i></b></p>
<p>MergerSupporter&#8230; I agree with you. I believe that this has become personal and therefore selfish on Hartlieb&#8217;s part.</p>
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		<title>By: homer985</title>
		<link>http://siriusbuzz.com/shareholder-files-appeal-of-sirius-xm-merger.php/comment-page-5#comment-95993</link>
		<dc:creator>homer985</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;They could have had their licenses revoked for willfully violating a licensing mandate!&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;


Michael, this has been part of your problem -- you greatly over-estimate things like this. Do you understand that allowing obscene language to go over the airwaves is also a violation of a broadcast license? How many licenses has the FCC revoked over the years for violating this? Do yourself a favor and research this... while you&#039;re at it, why don&#039;t you check out how many radio licenses were revoked by radio stations who allowed phone calls on the air -- without notifying the caller that they were on the air (also a violation of a license mandate)... and I could go on.

I told you a long time ago -- violating something like this (even though I disagree in your definition of violating it... I believe they bent the rule, but did not break the rule... but that&#039;s another topic and a disagreement between you and I)... anyhow, violating something like this does not necessarily mean the would have their license revoked. That&#039;s not how it works. 

Do yourself a favor and research just how many licenses the FCC has revoked -- under the definition of &quot;unfit&quot; (as you allege); you&#039;d be surprised at the answer. IMHO, that is a total over exaggeration on your part.

You and I have had our differences in beliefs for a couple of years now... so I&#039;m not going to rehash this. I happen to think that you over exaggerate much and sometimes see things that are just not there. I continue to believe - and have all along - that you have a long road ahead of you... and that there is a high probability that this is a waste of time and money for you.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;demonotaku:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; If for some reason Hartlieb is successful in having the merger order set aside -- the merger would be found to be illegal. And if (for some even odder reason) they are forced to split up... it will kill not only XM, but Sirius too. These companies are too far along to easily split them up. Doing so now will cause total havoc in the business, the company and the stock price. And, IMHO, cause them BOTH to go bankrupt.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>&#8220;They could have had their licenses revoked for willfully violating a licensing mandate!&#8221;</b></i></p>
<p>Michael, this has been part of your problem &#8212; you greatly over-estimate things like this. Do you understand that allowing obscene language to go over the airwaves is also a violation of a broadcast license? How many licenses has the FCC revoked over the years for violating this? Do yourself a favor and research this&#8230; while you&#8217;re at it, why don&#8217;t you check out how many radio licenses were revoked by radio stations who allowed phone calls on the air &#8212; without notifying the caller that they were on the air (also a violation of a license mandate)&#8230; and I could go on.</p>
<p>I told you a long time ago &#8212; violating something like this (even though I disagree in your definition of violating it&#8230; I believe they bent the rule, but did not break the rule&#8230; but that&#8217;s another topic and a disagreement between you and I)&#8230; anyhow, violating something like this does not necessarily mean the would have their license revoked. That&#8217;s not how it works. </p>
<p>Do yourself a favor and research just how many licenses the FCC has revoked &#8212; under the definition of &#8220;unfit&#8221; (as you allege); you&#8217;d be surprised at the answer. IMHO, that is a total over exaggeration on your part.</p>
<p>You and I have had our differences in beliefs for a couple of years now&#8230; so I&#8217;m not going to rehash this. I happen to think that you over exaggerate much and sometimes see things that are just not there. I continue to believe &#8211; and have all along &#8211; that you have a long road ahead of you&#8230; and that there is a high probability that this is a waste of time and money for you.</p>
<p><b><i>demonotaku:</i></b> If for some reason Hartlieb is successful in having the merger order set aside &#8212; the merger would be found to be illegal. And if (for some even odder reason) they are forced to split up&#8230; it will kill not only XM, but Sirius too. These companies are too far along to easily split them up. Doing so now will cause total havoc in the business, the company and the stock price. And, IMHO, cause them BOTH to go bankrupt.</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: Merger Supporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merger Supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hartleib says &quot;[The FCC]...underestimated my temerity.&quot;  And that is ALL this is about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hartleib says &#8220;[The FCC]&#8230;underestimated my temerity.&#8221;  And that is ALL this is about.</p>
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		<title>By: demonotaku</title>
		<link>http://siriusbuzz.com/shareholder-files-appeal-of-sirius-xm-merger.php/comment-page-5#comment-95984</link>
		<dc:creator>demonotaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure it doesn&#039;t address that but if your appeal is successful, You Killed XM, XM will get bought by comcast, and then Sirius will die. Apple and Sirius will never form a Partnership and all Satrad Radio is dead, I&#039;ll gladly point the 20 million pissed off customers to the person who caused the best merger for the public to die</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure it doesn&#8217;t address that but if your appeal is successful, You Killed XM, XM will get bought by comcast, and then Sirius will die. Apple and Sirius will never form a Partnership and all Satrad Radio is dead, I&#8217;ll gladly point the 20 million pissed off customers to the person who caused the best merger for the public to die</p>
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		<title>By: Hartleib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hartleib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great going forward but does not address the past violations for the last several years!Good night I need some sleep.</description>
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