Is Good News on The Horizon For Auto Sales?
We have all seen the headlines for the auto industry over the past few days, and they have not been good. Car sales are dismal. The message is plain and simple to see.
- The Worst Auto Sales In 25 Years
- GM Sales Down 45% – Ford Down 30% – Toyota Down 25%
However, we here at Siriusbuzz, and our readers demand information that goes a bit deeper. With that in mind, lets look back 25 years, the date by which current auto sales were compared. The year was 1983. February of 1983 was the bottom for auto sales. The industry was in a dire situation, and things were very bad. In early 1983, the discussion and headlines about car sales were all doom and gloom.
So how is there good news on the horizon? Well, fast forward to January 1984, and you will find an interesting New York Times headline that points to a banner year in the auto industry.

What we may be seeing between now and December of this year is that the bottom in auto sales has been reached, and that when the auto sector turns around, that is can do so in quick order. With gas prices coming down, the election behind us, credit beginning to flow, and stability in the banking system, the worst is perhaps behind us. I will project that auto sales will begin their rebound in December, and that by Presidents Day in 2009, the auto industry will be stabilized.
For satellite radio, the issue is getting through this slow period, and being in a position to grow and respond when auto sales increase. With many analysts projecting a weak auto market through 2009, it is little wonder that they have taken down their estimates. In my opinion, the auto industry will respond faster than many analysts think simply because of the nature of the business.
Cars depreciate with age. Holding onto a car longer means more repairs, and less value down the road. Consumers will begin to feel the pressure of the trade in value of their car, good deals on new cars, and repair costs that could be mounting.
Slumped sales in the auto channel have been happening for a year now. Depressed sales have been happening for a few months. In my opinion, it is virtually impossible for downward year over year comparisons to continue through all of 2009. By example, Merrill Lynch analyst Jessica Reif Cohen has 2008 projected sales at 13.8 million and 2009 sales at 12.4 million. This is calling for another year of slumping sales, something which I disagree with. If we look at sales since 2006, and projected sales, I feel we can see a flaw in the logic.
- 2006 sales – 16,504,400
- 2007 sales – 16,089,310
- 2008 sales – 13,802,438 (Merrill estimate)
- 2009 sales – 12,455,821 (Merrill estimate)
- 2010 sales – 14,946,985 (Merrill estimate)
The auto industry will respond by giving consumers a better value. The used car market will be dryer environment for low mileage used cars, making the new car market more attractive. The dynamics of car buying and selling simply does not lend itself to two plus years of downward sales. The gap that existed between 2007 and 2008 is abnormal, and that will by nature cause i similar reaction to the upside at some point. It is my opinion that these analysts are projecting too gradual a recovery.
For satellite radio, this could mean that a more favorable opinion of the sector will happen when the auto sales become better. Some analysts are projecting doom and gloom for all of 2009. If sales increase faster, satellite will benefit.
Position: Long SIRI







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GetitStraight.
I get that the shorts took back over after the past weeks runup.
I’m looking to make a trade in the .20’s.
That’s what I get.
I hear you on the great depression. And have posted similar thoughts back in September.
I just think that right now things over the next six months are going to move more positive.
If we can remove the “GREED” from Wall St. Things will stabilize and move forward.
I voted Republican. But am openminded enough to have listened to Obama, last night. And believe that there is huge momentum right now for a positive reversal.
So I’m staying in my bubble. LOL. Take care GIS.
Vaporgold. I’m right there with you.
socal
just bought another 6100 for .28 now avg down to .97
socal
i think it goes up from here..last chance for bargain pps…all the bad news is out ans monday should get nice pop up.
yet i am prepared to buy more if it drops to low 20’s and that will be all i need to wait 1-2 yrs for that 3.00 pps
SiriusHope-
You just have to hope they stay afloat and you’ll be ok.
This is the main issue the pps is so low.
I don’t even know if I want to buy at .22 cents ? I’m afraid to lose even more even though the upside could be enormous. You need brass balls here.
Friggin/fccfoff,
What exactly is your position? I’m not trying to be an ass, but you do seem to have differing stances on your history.
Is that breakdown from the first post just the shares you currently own, excluding shares bought then subsequently sold?
Are we going to base our investment decisions on what friggen’s position is? I mean, please.
Yes. My intention was never to try and influence anyone. I’ve learned alot on this board and vented like anyone else.
To answer your question Sirius_Stern_fan….the above position and breakdown of stock shares is what I currently own in my etrade account and my history of when i bought and at what price. Pretty detailed I think.
I did have a seperate Ameritrade account that i opened and bought sirius shares in as well since my brother likes Ameritrade…I don’t tho. Much prefer etrade!
Anyway…that is why the total above is 15 grand short since it doesn’t include the Ameritrade bought shares…of which I was FORCED to sell most of them for the reasons I already gave.
Getitstraight is right. Don’t base anything on me or anyone else.
SXM
I bought the additional shares because i feel that the price to get to my average of .97 is not unrealistic to reach. The only way it can’t is that if a bk is filed no matter how much lowere it can go. I am gambling with just about $11,000. WIN, lose or get even.
I don’t base my decisions on anything anyone says on this board. Although it’s way better then the google and yahoo assholes.
I just feel that if you are gonna put out negativity on the stock in a public forum which could (although I admit most likely doesn’t) affect the stock price, that you should be honest about your position.
Otherwise it’s no better than weinkes driving the price down with his projections for the GS short position and eventual long position.
Will you guys please post some over in the forums? The intraday stock thread is for the daily discussion of SIRI.
I get lonely over there..
S_S_F – Look, I think it’s a perfectly legitimate request but the fact of the matter is we don’t who is on here posting and what their true goals are. That’s the nature of boards like this. Hell, I could be Weinkes for all anyone knows. I’m not but that’s how it works.
I like to think I have most everyone on here pegged and what their intentions are. I think we all do. But unless we were to view everyone’s actual holdings, who knows.
I mean, we don’t even know what the writers of the articles here on SiriusBuzz invest in and to what amount. Sure they sometimes say, “Long Sirius” but I’d like to know how long, 10 shares or 100,000 shares.
For some reason I just don’t think that most people are comfortable disclosing their holdings. Where’s the conviction I tell you?
Sirius needs 1 billion next year for refinancing. Increase the subscription by $5 per month and Sirius will have extra 1.2 billion in revenue annually from the 20 million current subscribers.
I agree with those statements, all I ask is that if you are going to lie, at least get THAT straight. Otherwise you’re a liar, AND a retard.
*no pun on your name intended*
Getit…
I have a conviction and not shy about revealing to tell you and everyone i have 11,100 shares that represent an investment of $10,700 and thats the TRUTH. it will take the price to go to .97 to get even but i will ride it higher for next few years. NO RUSH for me.
Believe me S_S_F I feel like a retard being invested in this stock almost on a daily basis. My dad beat me as a child when I did stupid things. I guess he didn’t beat me enough because I continue to do stupid things.
SH – I appreciate the fact that you always seem to be honest and give full disclosure. I hope it works out for you.
GIS. 18k shares. Once held 32K.
Your dad needed to do a two for one, and put me on the beating list.
scrf – ha ha ha.
Mel hurt me BIG, I trusted him and Cramer, took out a home line of credit and bought 10,000 share @ 1.94, then i bought more @ $2.51. I now hold 15,500 shares at a wopping
.27 cents per share. I can’t even cover my INTREST never mind my Principal…Thanks Mel…
G.I.S tell your Dad to beat the day light out of ME !!!!!
Holding LONG / or Forever