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    09-30-2015, 04:24 PM #51
    Quote Originally Posted by dm_4 View Post
    ya win more super bowls when they are under inflated
    The only Super Bowl trophy the Clowns will get is if & when the Pats or the Steelers let them borrow one. I think Paul Brown is putting the maloik on them and well he should.

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    09-30-2015, 04:45 PM #52
    Cleveland Clowns? HAHAHA

    Quote Originally Posted by SN38 View Post
    The only Super Bowl trophy the Clowns will get is if & when the Pats or the Steelers let them borrow one. I think Paul Brown is putting the maloik on them and well he should.
    I WIN. GAME OVER. CHECK MATE. I CONTROL YOUR EVERY MOVE. WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

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    09-30-2015, 04:54 PM #53
    Quote Originally Posted by midas360 View Post
    Cleveland Clowns? HAHAHA
    Example in point - they have had 23 starting quarterbacks since returning in 1999!

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    09-30-2015, 05:38 PM #54
    Quote Originally Posted by SN38 View Post
    Example in point - they have had 23 starting quarterbacks since returning in 1999!
    that is actually amazing....i think we have had 2 since 1999.

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    09-30-2015, 05:48 PM #55
    Tom Brady meets with fan who returned his 400th TD football

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/p...th_td_football


    A lot of fans in sports these days try to make money off of opportunities like this. It is refreshing to see that this guy gave the ball back right on the spot with no questions asked. Sounds like he had a nice moment with TB12.

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    09-30-2015, 06:55 PM #56
    Whoah... you're kidding, right? Sounds like they are little lost? Remember when teams had QB's for a long time? Montanga, Staubach, White,

    Quote Originally Posted by SN38 View Post
    Example in point - they have had 23 starting quarterbacks since returning in 1999!
    I WIN. GAME OVER. CHECK MATE. I CONTROL YOUR EVERY MOVE. WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

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    09-30-2015, 07:18 PM #57
    Quote Originally Posted by SN38 View Post
    Example in point - they have had 23 starting quarterbacks since returning in 1999!
    How about this for a stat (copied directly from a wikipedia search) 8 Head Coaches in the same period of time (1999 - present)

    1 Chris Palmer* 1999–2000
    2 Butch Davis* 2001–2004
    3 Terry Robiskie 2004
    4 Romeo Crennel 2005–2008
    5 Eric Mangini 2009–2010
    6 Pat Shurmur* 2011–2012
    7 Rob Chudzinski* 2013
    8 Mike Pettine* 2014–

    By the way those asterisks (*) denote the fact that their Head Coaching Career began and ended with the Browns. Put another way, at least 5 of the 8 coaches above had never had a prior gig as Head Coach before being given the keys to the shop in Cleveland.

    And the fun doesn't stop there. Just for Sh!t's-n-giggles I searched "number of Cleveland Browns General Managers since 1999 and this is the list that came up:

    1 Dwight Clark 1999 - 2001
    2 Butch Davis 2002 - 2004
    3 Phil Savage 2005 - 2008
    4 George Kokinis 2009 - 2009
    5 Tom Heckert 2010 - 2012
    6 Michael Lombardi 2013 - 2013
    7 Ray Farmer 2014 -



    Then add in 3 different owners...Modell, Al Lerner, and Randy Lerner....and yes you can count Al and Randy Lerner as two different owners because they had completely different outlooks on their involvement with the team.

    Any way you slice it, 23 different starting quarterbacks, 8 different head coaches, 7 different General Managers and 3 different owners in the span of 15 years and that's anyone's recipe for disaster.
    Last edited by user34615145; 09-30-2015 at 07:36 PM.

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    09-30-2015, 08:36 PM #58
    Quote Originally Posted by user34615145 View Post
    How about this for a stat (copied directly from a wikipedia search) 8 Head Coaches in the same period of time (1999 - present)

    1 Chris Palmer* 1999–2000
    2 Butch Davis* 2001–2004
    3 Terry Robiskie 2004
    4 Romeo Crennel 2005–2008
    5 Eric Mangini 2009–2010
    6 Pat Shurmur* 2011–2012
    7 Rob Chudzinski* 2013
    8 Mike Pettine* 2014–

    By the way those asterisks (*) denote the fact that their Head Coaching Career began and ended with the Browns. Put another way, at least 5 of the 8 coaches above had never had a prior gig as Head Coach before being given the keys to the shop in Cleveland.

    And the fun doesn't stop there. Just for Sh!t's-n-giggles I searched "number of Cleveland Browns General Managers since 1999 and this is the list that came up:

    1 Dwight Clark 1999 - 2001
    2 Butch Davis 2002 - 2004
    3 Phil Savage 2005 - 2008
    4 George Kokinis 2009 - 2009
    5 Tom Heckert 2010 - 2012
    6 Michael Lombardi 2013 - 2013
    7 Ray Farmer 2014 -



    Then add in 3 different owners...Modell, Al Lerner, and Randy Lerner....and yes you can count Al and Randy Lerner as two different owners because they had completely different outlooks on their involvement with the team.

    Any way you slice it, 23 different starting quarterbacks, 8 different head coaches, 7 different General Managers and 3 different owners in the span of 15 years and that's anyone's recipe for disaster.
    Thanks guys for feeling our pain.
    This idea I have is pretty radical but I feel they should retire the Browns name and send it to Cincinnati where the real Paul Brown team resides with our apologies for besmirching the Paul Brown legacy. Kind of like a bankruptcy deal and clear the slate.

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    09-30-2015, 08:51 PM #59
    Quote Originally Posted by SN38 View Post
    Thanks guys for feeling our pain.
    This idea I have is pretty radical but I feel they should retire the Browns name and send it to Cincinnati where the real Paul Brown team resides with our apologies for besmirching the Paul Brown legacy. Kind of like a bankruptcy deal and clear the slate.
    Yeah SN, not trying to rub it in but rather just saying "Wow". But of course you know these stats because you live with them. If any fans, anywhere deserves a real champion ( and by "real" I'm not talking about soccer or arena football or some other nonsense) with one of their major sports franchises, it's Cleveland fans.

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    09-30-2015, 09:00 PM #60
    Quote Originally Posted by user34615145 View Post
    Yeah SN, not trying to rub it in but rather just saying "Wow". But of course you know these stats because you live with them. If any fans, anywhere deserves a real champion ( and by "real" I'm not talking about soccer or arena football or some other nonsense) with one of their major sports franchises, it's Cleveland fans.
    Wow user, thanks for your understanding and support Wish we could get Putin as an owner or at least head coach.

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