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    Obama then and now

    Now this is funny. Four "more" years?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZgQhnNRSuw

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    Here's another.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9SOx9jtpqA

    And some say that the democrats have a platform.......

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    President obama clearly had a bad debate. Joe biden on the other hand clearly had a better grasp of the issues and of course the facts.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories...323.html?hp=l1


    DANVILLE, Ky. — Whatever Joe Biden was drinking Thursday night, Barack Obama ought to order a case of it.

    Biden took on Paul Ryan in the one and only vice presidential debate and did what Obama had failed to do last week in his debate with Mitt Romney: Biden not only won over the audience, but got under his opponent’s skin.

    Biden smirked, sneered, and openly laughed at many of Ryan’s responses. It could have looked rude, but Biden made it look tough.

    After all, Biden was the 69-year-old defender and Ryan was the 42-year-old challenger. But by the end of the evening, Joltin’ Joe had done real damage to his opponent.

    In fact, as the 90 minutes flew by - - it was the rare debate where one actually wanted it to go longer - - Ryan began looking younger and younger. And not in a good way.

    Both men have been in politics most of their adult lives, but Biden’s adult life has been longer. Biden was in the Senate so long, he knows a dozen ways of observing outward forms of politeness, while sticking a knife in your ribs and twisting it.



    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz293x570Me

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    Now why does this sound familiar? Oh yeah its mr. siriuslyWrongs favorite economic theory espoused by none other than Mr. Peter Schiff who has gotten just about every economic call
    WRONG tha he has made in the past 4 years and beyond.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...ustrian-School


    I was completely unsuprised when the New York Times wrote back in August that Paul Ryan is a fan of the economist Friedrich von Hayek, a member of the Austrian school of economics. After all, the Ryan budget takes from those mooching poors and gives to the rich übermenschen who've earned the upward redistribution of wealth because CAPITALISM! Ayn Rand couldn't have designed a more sociopathic budget herself, and we're talking about a woman who thought there was something praiseworthy about William Edward Hickman.

    But in the same way that libertarians generally espouse Rand's ideas about the evilness of traditional values like altruism and equality, they've also decided to endorse yet another fantasy world where the rules are made up and the facts don't matter. If you don't know much about the Austrian school, they're so far up their own asses that they think Milton Friedman is a socialist. That's not even the looniest part about the Austrian school, the favored economic system of most Randists and Libertarians.

    If you're like me, you may have found yourself yelling some version of "there are four lights!" or "Two Plus Two Equals Four!" at republicans on television over the past few months. You may have loved Bill Clinton's mathtastic takedown of the Republican party at the DNC. But Paul Ryan's economic theory is much harder to rubble, because it relies on special magic math that is immune, in the eyes of its beholders, from any kind of outside criticism.
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    "Evilness of traditional values like altruism and equality". Very dramatic indeed.

    I know math is hard for you, so statistics will be even harder yet, but if you google the term "standard normal curve" you will learn that not everyone can or will be equal. Some accept that, and recognize that government is certainly not the solution to this natural phenemonon.

    I think Thomas Sowell touches on this point very well in the link supplied.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHdhrNhh88

    Now in your world, if you critize Sowell, then you are a racist.
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    Those horrible Austrians...

    Ron Paul - September 10, 2003 (I will highlight the important parts for you)

    "Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market. This is because the special privileges granted to Fannie and Freddie have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.

    Despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government's interference in the housing market, the government's policy of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing. Like all artificially-created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing."

    You still want government to be the solution to altruism and equality? Of course you do.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul128.html

    Ron Paul knew the devistation of failed government policy before it failed. Silly Austrian School.
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    And who defended Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

    Maxine Waters (D-CA) for one, "Mr. Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Fannie Mae...."

    Gregory Meeks (D-NY), "I'm just pissed off for being here"

    Lacy Clay (D-MO), "...Political lynching of Franklin Raines..."

    Artur Davis (D-AL)

    Barney Frank (D-MA), "I don't see anything wrong."

    Failed government policy brought to you by DEMOCRATS.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPoksfSf2nA

    And did you see those salaries? 1%'ers for sure.

    At least Bill Clinton admits it.

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    We've heard it all before.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZgQhnNRSuw

    Four more years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Bush cares about the little guy. You should be happy. I wonder if he was too caring??

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