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    How about the Fox news origin of lies about Obama?
    Now thats polarizing.
    Rush is consider to be much more than an entertainer by the right wing.
    He is a Conservative leader.President Obama didnt lie about health care costs at all.
    Do you understand the word estimate? Are you really equating the two. You seriously cant be that dumb. He is sincerely trying to bring costs down. There are many factors that go into
    effecting those costs. Explain why they have been rising under Republican and Democratic administrations?
    When much of the health care bill doesnt go into affect until 2014 one would think
    judgement at the present time should be somewhat tempered. No?
    Look at Mass. which is a model for President Obama's health care bill.
    A lot of positive results have been produced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    How about the Fox news origin of lies about Obama?
    Now thats polarizing.
    One would need examples versus liberal heresay.. Stop blaming "Fox News". You liberals have MSNBC, "Hollywood" amongst other embodiments of your cause to destroy America as it was founded.

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    Still dont have any idea who Paul Volcker is. No wonder they are ignorant of economics and spread lies about President Obama. Seriously shameful.

    Smoked em out. Radical right and Fox news lovers. Ignorance is bliss.

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    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201103290006


    CRUISE SHIP CONFESSION: Top Fox News Executive Admits Lying On-Air About Obama
    March 29, 2011 8:03 am ET by Eric Hananoki

    In newly uncovered audio, a Fox News executive boasts that he lied repeatedly during the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when he speculated on-air "about whether Barack Obama really advocated socialism."

    Speaking in 2009 onboard a pricey Mediterranean cruise sponsored by a right-wing college, Fox Washington managing editor Bill Sammon described his attempts the previous year to link Obama to "socialism" as "mischievous speculation." Sammon, who is also a Fox News vice president, acknowledged that "privately" he had believed that the socialism allegation was "rather far-fetched."

    "Last year, candidate Barack Obama stood on a sidewalk in Toledo, Ohio, and first let it slip to Joe the Plumber that he wanted to quote, 'spread the wealth around,' " said Sammon. "At that time, I have to admit, that I went on TV on Fox News and publicly engaged in what I guess was some rather mischievous speculation about whether Barack Obama really advocated socialism, a premise that privately I found rather far-fetched."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Still dont have any idea who Paul Volcker is. No wonder they are ignorant of economics and spread lies about President Obama. Seriously shameful.

    Smoked em out. Radical right and Fox news lovers. Ignorance is bliss.
    Ignorant response. Of course I know who Volcker is. Obama is the president, and he is very dangerous as Jon Voight noted.

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    Who knew? Extreme right wingers now get their talking points from old time hollywood actors. Priceless. lmfao.

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    Notice they havent said who Paul Volcker is. They give themselves stall time to check wikipedia.
    Hilarious.

    Volcker is a President Obama supporter and adviser on economics. He is the anithesis of a Marxist. Anti-inflationistas should bow at his feet. lol

    The level of ignorance out there astounds me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Notice they havent said who Paul Volcker is. They give themselves time to check wikipedia.

    Volcker is a President Obama supporter and adviser on economics. He is the anithesis of a Marxist. Anti-inflationistas should bow at his feet. lol

    The level of ignorance out there astounds me.
    So that's why you cite Volcker? Because he's an Obama "supporter" LMFAO.

    I'm going to bed as I have a real job and have to get up in the morning to support my family. I know you can't relate.

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    Yes, Volcker is the antiithesis of a Marxist and a President Obama economic
    advisor and supporter (as is Warren Buffett). I understand logic eludes some people. Oh vey!
    A plus B = C.

    Still doesnt know who Volcker really is. Ignorant of economics.
    We wil be waiting until tomorrow when he has a chance to do some more research. lol

    Clearly this guy wouldnt know what a hard job is if it smacked him in the face. Invented a persona. Either that or he has got a job that allows him to cheat his company of the many hours he takes off in the day to post nonsense here. Embarassing. As i have repeatedly said, I'm a freelancer. Whats
    HIS excuse? lol
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    President Obama's Marxist compatriots keep coming out of the woodwork.


    Dana Milbank
    David Cameron’s special relationship with President Obama


    Finally, a conservative who likes President Obama.

    And he’s not just any conservative, mind you. He’s a capital-C Conservative, British Prime Minister David Cameron. On his official visit to Washington, the Briton could not say enough good things about his American host.

    On Iran: “The president’s tough, reasonable approach has united the world.”

    On Libya: “Mr. President, Barack, about Libya . . . none of that would have been possible without the overwhelming support and overwhelming force that the United States provided in the early stages of that campaign — what you promised you would do.”

    On Afghanistan: “I think the U.S. surge . . . had a transformative effect.”

    On Syria: “Our teams work incredibly closely together on this issue.”

    The prime minister even defended Obama’s slow progress on debt reduction: “Actually, if you look at the U.S. plans for reducing the deficit over coming years, in many ways they are actually steeper than what we’re going to be doing.”

    All that was missing was for Cameron to cut a campaign ad for Obama — and he just about did that, too. The prime minister accompanied Obama to an NCAA basketball tournament game Tuesday night that just happened to be in the swing state of Ohio, and it produced some impossibly good press for the president.

    British Prime Minister Tony Blair famously became President George W. Bush’s “poodle” after he followed the United States into Iraq. Now it’s the opposite relationship — an American politician from the left and a British prime minister from the right — but a similar dynamic is developing. This time, Cameron seems to be serving as Obama’s guard dog, defending his American master against the Mitt Romneys and the Rick Santora.

    Obama must have recognized the value in having a foreign leader as a campaign-year prop, because his incessant sports chatter was perhaps the most forced attempt at presidential bonhomie since Bush announced at Camp David that he and Blair used the same toothpaste.

    “I shared with the prime minister a uniquely American tradition of bracketology — March Madness,” Obama announced on Cameron’s arrival at the White House Wednesday morning.

    “I will leave America with some new words,” Cameron replied. “Alley-oops, brackets, fast breaks.”

    “I’m still trying to get David to fill out his bracket,” Obama reported later, at a news conference in the Rose Garden. The president also mentioned an earlier ping-pong match in which he and Cameron got “thrashed” by some kids.

    “I’m trying to make up to you with the gift of a table tennis table,” answered Cameron, who had indeed provided the president with such a table earlier in the day.

    “We should practice this afternoon,” suggested Obama, who reciprocated by supplying his British friend with a charcoal grill.

    Cameron had a better idea. “One of these days, I’ll get my own back by getting you to a cricket match,” said the Eton- and Oxford-educated premier.

    During the question time, a British correspondent cautioned Obama that a cricket match can last five days.

    But it just may take that long for the two men to run out of ways to praise each other and their oh-so-special relationship. Obama went out of his way to call his new friend by his first name: “I value David’s leadership and partnership so much. . . . I very much appreciate David’s perspective. . . . I want to commend David personally for the leadership role he plays. . . . I concur with everything David said. . . . I’d echo everything that David said.”

    Maybe it was the scent of the saucer magnolias flowering in the Rose Garden, but Cameron was downright awestruck by his host, whom he called Bar-ACK:

    “I have to say, Barack, with that spectacular command of our shared language . . . Barack, thank you, because there are some countries whose alliance is a matter of convenience, but ours is a matter of conviction. . . . As Barack has said, the relationship between Britain and America is the strongest that it has ever been.”

    David hailed the World War II service of Barack’s grandfather. Barack tried to speak David’s English: “David, we are chuffed to bits that you are here, and I’m looking forward to a great natter.” David expressed regret for the British burning of the White House, in 1812. Barack gave one of the two questions for the American side to Reuters correspondent Alister Bull, whose accent matches Cameron’s. Some of the American reporters grumbled.

    “It’s the special relationship,” Bull said.

    “It’s a special relationship,” Obama agreed.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...y.html?hpid=z2

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