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  1. Havakasha is offline
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    01-24-2012, 01:46 AM #21
    STill waiting for your quote about Obama and Capitalism. Why is so hard for you to simply publish the answer to this. You made a charge now PLEASE PRODUCE THE PASSAGE.


    Gingrich made the North Dakota quip tonight. Exactly as you stated it. Clearly a simplistic example going around the right wing blogs. Clones.
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    01-26-2012, 11:50 AM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    STill waiting for your quote about Obama and Capitalism. Why is so hard for you to simply publish the answer to this. You made a charge now PLEASE PRODUCE THE PASSAGE.


    Gingrich made the North Dakota quip tonight. Exactly as you stated it. Clearly a simplistic example going around the right wing blogs. Clones.
    I posted the entire transcript douche. Get off your lazy ass and read it yourself. It's all there.

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    01-26-2012, 01:26 PM #23
    SiriuslyAngry,

    Please just publish it here. Thank you.

    You implied that president Obama is quoted as saying he is opposed to capitalisma and the free market system and i think its fair for you to supply that quote.

    You seem very able to supply all kinds of other right wing talking points when you want. For example, one would think there is only one company in this country and its called Solyndra. LMFAO.

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    01-26-2012, 01:59 PM #24
    Come on. Just supply the quote to back up your claims. Dont make me chase you like you did over Mr. Peter Schiffs wildly inaccurate predictions.
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    01-26-2012, 06:03 PM #25
    Hey Jackass, Im still waiting for your lying ass to produce the quote. YOU cant, cause it
    dont exist. Asshole. I say that with all respect.
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    01-30-2012, 03:20 PM #26
    Where is the quote? Why wont you produce it?

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    01-30-2012, 03:38 PM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Where is the quote? Why wont you produce it?
    Here, right out of the transcript.

    ....."He believed then what we know is true today: that the free market is the greatest force for economic progress in human history. It’s led to a prosperity and standard of living unmatched by the rest of the world.

    But Roosevelt also knew that the free market has never been a free license to take whatever you want from whoever you can. It only works when there are rules of the road to ensure that competition is fair, open, and honest. And so he busted up monopolies, forcing those companies to compete for customers with better services and better prices. And today, they still must. He fought to make sure businesses couldn’t profit by exploiting children, or selling food or medicine that wasn’t safe. And today, they still can’t.

    In 1910, Teddy Roosevelt came here, to Osawatomie, and laid out his vision for what he called a New Nationalism. “Our country,” he said, “…means nothing unless it means the triumph of a real democracy…of an economic system under which each man shall be guaranteed the opportunity to show the best that there is in him.”

    For this, Roosevelt was called a radical, a socialist, even a communist. But today, we are a richer nation and a stronger democracy because of what he fought for in his last campaign: an eight hour work day and a minimum wage for women; insurance for the unemployed, the elderly, and those with disabilities; political reform and a progressive income tax.

    Today, over one hundred years later, our economy has gone through another transformation. Over the last few decades, huge advances in technology have allowed businesses to do more with less, and made it easier for them to set up shop and hire workers anywhere in the world. And many of you know firsthand the painful disruptions this has caused for a lot of Americans.

    Factories where people thought they would retire suddenly picked up and went overseas, where the workers were cheaper. Steel mills that needed 1,000 employees are now able to do the same work with 100, so that layoffs were too often permanent, not just a temporary part of the business cycle. These changes didn’t just affect blue-collar workers. If you were a bank teller or a phone operator or a travel agent, you saw many in your profession replaced by ATMs or the internet. Today, even higher-skilled jobs like accountants and middle management can be outsourced to countries like China and India. And if you’re someone whose job can be done cheaper by a computer or someone in another country, you don’t have a lot of leverage with your employer when it comes to asking for better wages and benefits - especially since fewer Americans today are part of a union.

    Now, just as there was in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, there’s been a certain crowd in Washington for the last few decades who respond to this economic challenge with the same old tune. “The market will take care of everything,” they tell us. If only we cut more regulations and cut more taxes - especially for the wealthy - our economy will grow stronger. Sure, there will be winners and losers. But if the winners do really well, jobs and prosperity will eventually trickle down to everyone else. And even if prosperity doesn’t trickle down, they argue, that’s the price of liberty.

    It’s a simple theory - one that speaks to our rugged individualism and healthy skepticism of too much government. It fits well on a bumper sticker. Here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible post-war boom of the 50s and 60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade."


    There you go.

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    01-30-2012, 03:48 PM #28
    You see. he didnt say capitalism "never worked" as you and peter schiff tried to pretend.
    Your attempt to distort his comments is quite evil in my opinion.
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    01-30-2012, 03:50 PM #29
    Now, just as there was in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, there’s been a certain crowd in Washington for the last few decades who respond to this economic challenge with the same old tune. “The market will take care of everything,” they tell us. If only we cut more regulations and cut more taxes - especially for the wealthy - our economy will grow stronger. Sure, there will be winners and losers. But if the winners do really well, jobs and prosperity will eventually trickle down to everyone else. And even if prosperity doesn’t trickle down, they argue, that’s the price of liberty.

    What he said was TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS does not work and never has. The Bush administration proved it again most recently.

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    01-30-2012, 03:54 PM #30
    Do you believe that Teddy Roosevelt was a Marxist and didnt believe in Capitalism?


    "But Roosevelt also knew that the free market has never been a free license to take whatever you want from whoever you can. It only works when there are rules of the road to ensure that competition is fair, open, and honest. And so he busted up monopolies, forcing those companies to compete for customers with better services and better prices. And today, they still must. He fought to make sure businesses couldn’t profit by exploiting children, or selling food or medicine that wasn’t safe. And today, they still can’t.

    In 1910, Teddy Roosevelt came here, to Osawatomie, and laid out his vision for what he called a New Nationalism. “Our country,” he said, “…means nothing unless it means the triumph of a real democracy…of an economic system under which each man shall be guaranteed the opportunity to show the best that there is in him.”

    For this, Roosevelt was called a radical, a socialist, even a communist. But today, we are a richer nation and a stronger democracy because of what he fought for in his last campaign: an eight hour work day and a minimum wage for women; insurance for the unemployed, the elderly, and those with disabilities; political reform and a progressive income tax."

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