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    SiriuslyLong is offline
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    I wonder if this is true

    There are actually two messages here. The 1st points out the incredible benefits of Universal Healthcare and is very interesting; the 2nd is absolutely astounding - and explains a lot.


    1.A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.

    Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
    U.S. 65%
    England 46%
    Canada 42%

    Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:
    U.S. 93%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
    U.S. 90%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage referred to a medical specialist
    who see one within one month:
    U.S. 77%
    England 40%
    Canada 43%

    Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
    U.S. 71
    England 14
    Canada 18

    Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":
    U..S. 12%
    England 02%
    Canada 06%


    Check this last set of statistics!!


    2..The percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.

    Here are the percentages.
    T. Roosevelt................... 38%
    Taft............................... 40%
    Wilson .......................... 52%
    Harding.......................... 49%
    Coolidge....................... 48%
    Hoover ......................... 42%
    F. Roosevelt...................50%
    Truman........................ 50%
    Johnson........................ 47%
    Nixon............................ 53%
    Ford............................. 42%
    Carter........................... 32%
    Reagan..........................86%
    GH Bush....................... 51%
    Clinton ......................... 39%
    GW Bush...................... 55%

    And the winner is:

    Obama.................. 08%


    This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration: only 8% of them have ever worked in a job not supported by tax money!

    That's right! Only eight percent---the least, by far, of the last 19 presidents! And these people are trying to tell our big corporations how to run their business? They know what's best for GM, Chrysler, Wall Street, and you and me?

    How can the president of a major nation and society, the one with the most successful economic system in world history, stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one? Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And when it's the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers? They've spent most of their time in academia, government and/or non-profit jobs or as "community organizers." They should have been in an employment line.


    Pass this on! We'll NEVER see these facts in the main stream media.

    "One of the penalties of not participating in politics is that you will be governed by your inferiors." Plato"

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    Can you please post the specific LINK. Thanks

    Last I remembered GM and Chrysler were going bankrupt before the Govt helped out.
    Wall Street recently played a large part (derivative trading etc) in bringing the world's economies
    to their knees. This is the 2nd worst recession in our history. There is a need
    for govt involvement, oversight and regulation. Its beyond simplistic to always bash Govt

    Some of our greatest Presidents didn't come with business backgrounds nor did their administrations necessarily have large %'s of people who worked in the private business sector. And Vice versa. If you can show the correlations between these statistics you provided and the economies
    under the respective administrations I would be much obliged.

    GW Bush's administration was up at 55% and helped to create our current economic recession.
    He also took us from budget surpluses under Clinton (39%) to very large deficits.
    I really dont understand your simplistic logic. Maybe you should write a thesis on this.

    You are aware that one of the greatest innovators and businessman of this century, Steve
    Jobs was a supporter of President Obama right? I dont think he was someone who
    suffered fools gladly, so maybe you should be careful how easily you sling around the
    word "incompetent". These are difficult economic times and its not at all clear that anyone
    else ( McCain?) could have brought us out of this world wide recession any sooner. In fact
    things might have been way worse if his policy prescriptions were applied.
    Since you are a follower of Peter Schiff and a believer in the Austrian School of Economics
    I would be much more HUMBLE if i was you about discussing the subject of ignorance on
    business and fiscal matters. Remember many of Mr. Schiff's predictions over the last 10
    years have been way off. It hasn't escaped my notice that you wouldnt take me up on a gentleman's bet on Mr.Schiff's 2011 predictions. lol.


    OF COURSE S&L DOESNT PROVIDE A LINK. MUST BE HIDING SOMETHING.
    MY QUESS IS HE CALLS ME A RIGID IDEOLOGUE AND DOESNT PROVIDE THE
    LINK. LMFAO
    HYPOCRITICAL AS USUAL.
    Last edited by Havakasha; 10-14-2011 at 09:55 AM.

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    SiriuslyLong is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Can you please post the specific LINK. Thanks

    Last I remembered GM and Chrysler were going bankrupt before the Govt helped out.
    Wall Street recently played a large part (derivative trading etc) in bringing the world's economies
    to their knees. This is the 2nd worst recession in our history. There is a need
    for govt involvement, oversight and regulation. Its beyond simplistic to always bash Govt

    Some of our greatest Presidents didn't come with business backgrounds nor did their administrations necessarily have large %'s of people who worked in the private business sector. And Vice versa. If you can show the correlations between these statistics you provided and the economies
    under the respective administrations I would be much obliged.

    GW Bush's administration was up at 55% and helped to create our current economic recession.
    He also took us from budget surpluses under Clinton (39%) to very large deficits.
    I really dont understand your simplistic logic. Maybe you should write a thesis on this.

    You are aware that one of the greatest innovators and businessman of this century, Steve
    Jobs was a supporter of President Obama right? I dont think he was someone who
    suffered fools gladly, so maybe you should be careful how easily you sling around the
    word "incompetent". These are difficult economic times and its not at all clear that anyone
    else ( McCain?) could have brought us out of this world wide recession any sooner. In fact
    things might have been way worse if his policy prescriptions were applied.
    Since you are a follower of Peter Schiff and a believer in the Austrian School of Economics
    I would be much more HUMBLE if i was you about discussing the subject of ignorance on
    business and fiscal matters. Remember many of Mr. Schiff's predictions over the last 10
    years have been way off. It hasn't escaped my notice that you wouldnt take me up on a gentleman's bet on Mr.Schiff's 2011 predictions. lol.
    Sorry, don't have a link Mr. Rigid Ideologue Of the Worst Kind LMFAO. I cut and pasted the article for your critical review LMFAO. So is it true? Have you done some "research"? As if you are capable???

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    But I did take the effort to look this up. It very well might be right wing BS.

    http://theamericanjingoist.net/index...-organization/

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