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    Deficit? Only If You Never Talk About This.

    How Our Trillion-Dollar Empire Is the Cause of Our 'Deficit Problem' by Joshua Holland

    We could make the budget deficit disappear and fully fund Social Security and Medicare without raising taxes, if we only outspend our biggest military rival by threefold.

    The United States spends more on its military and security services than the rest of the world combined, yet in the midst of a major debate over our fiscal situation, that enormous drain on our national treasure isn't really "on the table" in any serious way. Obama's deficit commission recommended cutting the Pentagon's purse, but the thrust of its focus was on veterans' pensions and health-care -- rather than, say, maintaining costly bases to defend such imperiled allies as Italy and Germany -- and the spending reductions were largely symbolic relative to the level of bloat that plagues our security budget.

    One often hears that, in very rough terms, about a fifth of the federal budget goes to national security, another fifth pays for Social Security, a fifth or so is spent on Medicare and Medicaid and everything else makes up about 40 percent. But that, like much of the discussion of "defense" spending, is misleading -- it only counts dollars allocated in the annual defense budget, and in “emergency” supplemental bills.

    That belies the reality that spending on the American security state is dispersed throughout the federal budget. So while next year’s defense spending, narrowly defined, is expected to come in at $711 billion, when you include all the extra dollars hidden away in other parts of the budget, that number will rise to as high as $1.45 trillion. That would represent around 40 percent of next year’s budget.

    With Washington in the grip of deficit hysteria, that’s the elephant in the room whose name is never mentioned. As I wrote last week, the almost universally held belief that the the U.S. faces a deficit problem is wrong, and for two simple reasons. First, we have a very small government compared to the rest of the developed world -- between 2004 and 2007, the U.S. ranked 24th out of 26 countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) in overall government spending as a share of our economic output. And we also currently have one of the lowest tax burdens -- In 2008, we ranked 26th out of the 30 OECD countries in that category.

    Nonetheless, America’s elites have coalesced around the idea that in order to keep our tax rates among the lowest in the wealthy world, we’ll need to swallow some painful “shared sacrifice” (which in Washington usually means working people sacrificing some economic security and the wealthy getting another tax cut). But it’s important to recognize that it’s an ideological choice to view the projected “budget gap” as a structural, economic problem driven primarily by the growth of “entitlements” -- it’s not a belief grounded in objective fact.

    Instead of the ubiquitous stories about our "deficit crisis," the media could just as easily frame the country’s fiscal outlook as a problem of out-of-control health care costs fueled by the practices of the private insurance industry. As economist Dean Baker pointed out, “If the United States paid the same amount per person for health care as any of the 35 countries with longer life expectancies, we would be looking at huge budget surpluses for the indefinite future.”

    And they could also just as easily report that we face an unsustainable expensive overseas empire problem, made intractable by a deeply entrenched military-industrial-information complex. (The two areas of spending are intertwined -- well over a million Americans have served at least one tour in Iraq and/or Afghanistan, and tens of thousands of them who returned grievously wounded will require costly care for years to come. Economists estimate that even excluding those costs, the tab for the Iraq and Afghanistan operations may come in at $3 trillion dollars.)

    According to some estimates, 91 percent of our long-term public debt -- and the hundreds of billions we pay in interest on that debt annually -- accrued as a result of foreign military adventures of the past. Now contrast that with Social Security, which not only hasn’t added a dime to the deficit but has run surpluses that have partially offset other spending -- in areas like “defense” --for almost 30 years.

    Take a peek under the hood and check out what drives the engine of American empire. By no means are they all wasted dollars -- we live in a dangerous world and need a military. But ours remains fundamentally mismatched to the threats we face in the post-Cold War era, despite years of talk in the halls of the Pentagon about transforming the American military for the 21st century.

    It still represents an enormous government agency whose big-ticket weapons systems suck up a fair amount of national treasure in order to be ready for a conventional war between great powers that will never materialize. It’s an agency that’s worked desperately hard to militarize efforts to combat drugs and terrorism in order to justify retaining, and since 9/11/01, increasing its Cold War levels of funding.

    Nobody talks about it, but our hugely bloated “defense” budget is laden with pork -- not only basing and construction dollars carried by members of Congress back to their districts, but big spending on things like protection for pipelines, shipping and other privately owned operations, and subsidized research and development given away for nothing. It includes billions in military assistance that subsidizes the conflicts of countries like Egypt, Israel, Pakistan and Colombia (or, in Egypt’s case, a payoff to stay on the sidelines) and useless spending on hundreds of bases around the world bristling with fancy weapons systems that are ill-suited for the irregular warfare that the Planet’s Only Superpower is likely to fight.

    In large part, the status quo is maintained by the influence of the defense industry -- it lavished $136 million on law-makers last year. It’s almost comical at times, like when money for a new jet engine was forced through Congress over the objections of the Pentagon, which insisted that the costly project was “unnecessary and a waste of money.”

    And in part, it’s driven by what may be the greatest false dichotomy in our national discourse: that we must choose between cutting our military spending and “maintaining a strong defense.” The flaw in that is a matter of simple math: we not only spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined, we spend six times what second-place finisher China does on its military.That means we could cut our military spending in half -- making the budget deficit disappear in a few years, without raising taxes and while fully funding Social Security and Medicare -- and we’d still outspend our largest rival by threefold.

    That’s more evidence that the federal deficit “problem” isn’t a problem at all.
    Last edited by Atypical; 12-09-2010 at 06:41 PM.

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    Havakasha is offline
    Good piece. Thanks.
    This goes along with my post from Galbraith about the deficit. I will post it again later.

    It certainly is fascinating to watch the Republicans and S&L be completely nonchalant
    about the potential 700 billion dollars added to the deficit by
    making permanent the Bush tax cut for the top 2%. Unbelieveble hypocrisy.

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    Atypical is offline
    Havakasha

    I have to say this...

    You and I have posted a wide variety of essays and other comments here, all authoritative, over many months. Even if one disagrees with some of them, if I were on the receiving end and read them, really read them, I would have had to change/modify/enlarge my views on many things even if I were a conservative.

    Except for SL, who sometimes appears to have adjusted a belief but then posts some right-wing stupidity that causes me to rethink what I thought, I wonder what the hoi-polloi thinks about all of these hugely important issues?

    Of course, that's why I started that thread to All Members recently.

    But I digress.

    Thanks for your assistance through all of this.
    Last edited by Atypical; 12-09-2010 at 09:02 AM.

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    Havakasha is offline
    I completely agree with your analysis of S&L.

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    SiriuslyLong is offline
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    Havakasha - you still have a little on your chin.

    Atypical, thanks for the article. You know I loathe waste and bloat. It really seems like an area to work on.

    Why can't either of you answer the question of WHO should employ the unemployed.

    "Liberals speak often of tolerance, but they only tolerate Liberals and Liberal ideas"

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    Atypical is offline
    Don't understand the question.

    Your last line is what I was referring to in my reference above to your sometime posts.

    If you don't know how stupid and untrue it is ...

    By the way, there are standards for ideas, concepts and propositions. Just because a suggestion is ignored/refuted does not automatically indicate the one dismissing it is being casual in disregarding it.

    To repeat myself yet again, objective facts with solid evidence is all that counts. Ideas are not automatically created equal.

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    SiriuslyLong is offline
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    Tiring................ It's tough trying to have a discussion with a guy who knows everything.

    Here, try this?

    http://siriusbuzz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4684

    The original question was "who should hire the unemployed?", but I will change it. How do you SOLVE the issue of two societies, or income inquality for that matter. What is your idea or the science tested solution?
    Last edited by SiriuslyLong; 12-08-2010 at 05:01 PM.

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    LOL - I'm traveling today, and I'm in Dayton, OH. I turn on the TV in the hotel and Glen Beck is on!!! Since I'm accused of being a follower, I'm glad to know what he looks like LOL. Wow, he is a piece of conservative work, and it's only been on 2 minutes. Is he the guy that had the rally this summer?

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    Atypical is offline
    Yes, you're so put-upon.

    It only seems like I know everything because you know so little.

    Talk to yourself then. That way it won't be over your head.

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    No, no, no - please, I am unable to gleen the solution to income inquality or current unemployment from your many informative posts. I am genuinely interested in KNOWING the answer.

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