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  1. Havakasha is offline
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    05-04-2010, 07:42 PM #1

    The True Cost of Gasoline

    Those who argue we cant gradually wean ourselves of oil by taxing it or using a cap and trade system, because by doing so we would destroy our economy, fail to acknowledge all the costly ways that we subsidize oil and gas right now.
    Furthermore, this same group of people act as if oil will always be plentiful and will never run dry. What if the peak of our oil production is 5 or 10 years away and we are headed for $10 a gallon gasoline in the relatively near term without some tax or cap and trade system in place. Wouldnt it be smarter economically to start weaning ourselves off oil now by increasing our investment in alternative energy so that one day those forms of energy are cheaper than oil? The point is that our economy as it relates to our energy policy has many moving parts and shouldnt be analyzed only according to its immediate impact. We have to start thinking NOW about our energy future for the next 20 to 30 years and beyond, and realize that we will be way better off economically in the long run if make some changes immediately.

    Here is an analysis of the true cost of gas.

    http://www.hybridcars.com/news/real-...n-gas-835.html
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    05-04-2010, 07:43 PM #2
    And here another analysis of the true cost of oil.


    http://www.energyandcapital.com/arti...-gas-crude/461

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    05-07-2010, 12:03 AM #3
    Ho S&L what you got to say?

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    05-10-2010, 10:20 AM #4
    Got to bring this one back up to the top because its just too important and puts John in his rightful place--on the wrong side of history.

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    05-10-2010, 11:32 AM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Ho S&L what you got to say?
    Solar cars. When it's cloudy we can stay home!!

    I don't have too much to say about gasoline except that it is a necessity, and I hate taxing necessities. Tax booze.

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    05-10-2010, 11:51 AM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    Solar cars. When it's cloudy we can stay home!!

    I don't have too much to say about gasoline except that it is a necessity, and I hate taxing necessities. Tax booze.
    Hey, I ride a bike to work. Gas is not a necessity. But, booze sure as heck is!!!

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    05-10-2010, 12:26 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    Solar cars. When it's cloudy we can stay home!!

    I don't have too much to say about gasoline except that it is a necessity, and I hate taxing necessities. Tax booze.

    You hate all the taxes YOU KNOW ABOUT. Problem is there are a lot of hidden taxes including in making gasoline as cheap as it is. You got to be an equal opportunity hater.

    Solar and plug in electrics together. Hmmmm i wonder if anyone has thought of that yet?

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...rs-prius_N.htm

    Or this:
    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-e...solar-cars.htm

    Or this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_vehicle

    Booze to make cars run? Well i know some people who use vegetable oil so
    you might be on to something.

    P.S. You know we once used Whale oil for all our lighting. Times change. 100 years from now
    gasoline will probably look archaic.
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    05-19-2010, 04:43 PM #8

    The True Cost of Gasoline

    No, a lack of any actual policy could cost Cameron the election.