At least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy.

[Havakasha]

Yeah, where is Atypical???

SL, I just call a spade a spade. I'm not here to talk with John. He's not capable of having a decent conversation with people that don't agree with him. He likes to call people names like a young child would. That's not the way to solve any problems or to find conclusions that would help find answers.

But, he is very capable of calling his fellow Americans dumbass twits, socialists and the like.

Havakasha hit the naill on the head a little while ago. He pointed out that John may be another Tim McVey in our midst. Both served in the Gulf War. Both have blinders on and are only capable of seeing their own point of view. Both used foul language when speaking of people they don't agree with. Both had ties to Michigan.

I have followed the ramblings of John for a year. I have never seen anything like him before. I think it's very important that he not be given a soapbox to spew his hate from. SiriusBuzz has provided that for him. So, I'll just follow him around and make sure that our fellow forum members have another way to look at things when he attacks people.

Think about the title of this thread. John states that at least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy. That is just plain hate speech. That's all it is.

I have a son in law from Ecuador. Not lazy or dumb. I know about a dozen other folks from South America. None of them lazy or dumb. And yet, John creates a whole thread saying such negative things about our fellow Americans.

I think John is a very scary person and people should be aware of the dangers that he presents to our melting pot of a society.

By the way SL. Do you have any idea who this Saul Lwinsky is? John has brought him up before. I don't watch TV so I don't know about him. Does he have a TV show like Judge Judy, who seems to be a hero of John's? LOL, that's a scary thought to have heros who are TV actors....LOL

One cant see this enough.

[john]

There is absolutely no contradiction in the fact that China is the biggest polluter in the world today and the fact that they will be taking over the clean energy industry tommorow.

Logic 101.

There are problems with clean energy and there are problems with dirty energy. The future will be about clean energy. Time to enter the new century though it clearly frightens you.

Read and learn. I mean read and learn. Lol

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/07/op...7Usher.html?hp

Dumbass, they are the biggest producer of coal fired plants on the planet.

[john]

You see SiriuslyLong let me show you just what a twit candleman is. First of all he never did answer the question (yes when he was responding to me) then what else would you call that. It is ether one or the other. You see that is what they do, if the answer does not go along with their ideology then they just dont bother to answer it. I call that lying and he is a piece of crap for it. He has no integrety what so ever. I have cought him in several blantant lies already. He thinks that is hate and he is right I cant stand a person who cant seem to tell the truth. I would not do business with a lier would you. I suggest for people in his area not to do business with him because you will not get what he says you will. that is clear from the several lies he has told and been cought in. That shows the kind of integrety he has which is none.


I bet he has never asked them, who they voted for and if it was a democrat he never questioned them as to why, would you come from a socialist country and then vote for the very same people whose polocies lead your old country into the place which you think sucks to a point that you had to come here now. You see candleman never wants to get to the jest of the problem. He likes that they dont keep score in games anymore because he is a political correct pussy and a lier to boot.


P.S. If candleman was proud of himself he would have no proplem putting the name of his business up and were it is located.

This also cant be seen enough

[Havakasha]

I know they are the biggest polluters in the world and the biggest producers of coal plants in the world today and for the forseeable future. You dont read very well.

They are also going to be the biggest investors and producers of clean energy in the FUTURE. I know you are not going to challenge that or are you? LOL.

Again you really havent read this have you? For shame. Ignorance is not bliss.


Red China, Green China

By BRUCE USHER
Published: May 6, 2010
WITH the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf, talk has once again turned to clean energy. What few people appreciate is that the demand for everything from solar panels to energy-efficient light bulbs is already booming. Worldwide, $162 billion was spent in new clean-tech investments in 2009 alone.

The United States, with its expertise, capital and entrepreneurial spirit, is well positioned to dominate what could easily be the biggest market of the 21st century. But as the most recent delay over the Senate energy bill shows, the country is missing a key ingredient in shaping an effective clean-tech policy: the political will to encourage the innovation, manufacturing and investment necessary to bring these new technologies to market. And the longer America drags its feet, the more it cedes this enormous potential source of national wealth to the only other country able to capture it — China.

True, China has a long way to go before it can claim the mantle of global market leadership in clean technology. Unlike the United States, however, it has spent the last few years shaping its industrial policy to achieve precisely that goal.

China’s determination to become the global leader in clean tech has little to do with concerns for the environment and everything to do with jobs. For the foreseeable future, the greatest challenge for Beijing is to ensure full employment and rising income levels. The rapidly growing clean-technology sector is one of the few that can provide a sufficient number of new jobs. (Disclosure: I invest in clean energy in America and abroad.)

This wouldn’t be the first time China has taken economic advantage of opportunities resulting from climate change. The Kyoto Protocol, which caps greenhouse-gas emissions in Europe and Japan up to 2012, includes market-based mechanisms to promote the reduction of emissions at the lowest cost. The largest of these is the Clean Development Mechanism, which allows developing countries like China to generate credits from cuts in their greenhouse-gas emissions that are then sold to developed countries.

Beijing was initially slow to establish the domestic regulatory structures and develop the expertise needed to compete in this new market. In a 2004 analysis, the World Bank determined that China accounted for a mere 5 percent of clean-development projects globally. But by 2008, the most recent year for which annual data is available, the bank reported that China’s market share had climbed to an astounding 84 percent.

Beijing is about to do the same with clean technology. In 2009, its investment in clean energy reached nearly $35 billion, almost double America’s $19 billion, primarily due to domestic policies that promote the use of renewable energy. And the strategy is working. In 1999 China made 1 percent of the world’s solar panels; by 2008 it was the world’s leading producer, with a 32 percent market share, and its solar-panel exports were valued at $15 billion. To put that in perspective, in 2009 America’s No. 1 export product by far was civilian aircraft, with exports of $35 billion.

Without fast action to greatly expand our clean-tech industry, the United States will be left behind. As such, the Senate energy bill, at a minimum, needs to take aggressive action on the three following points:

First, institute national feed-in tariffs or a renewable portfolio standard — two ways to require that utilities buy clean energy in a minimum amount or at a certain price. Such standards have been effectively put into practice in several states, most notably in Texas with wind power, but only a federal program will provide the scale necessary to compete with China, which has a national feed-in tariff program of its own.

Second, establish a price on carbon via either a tax or a cap-and-trade program to encourage low-carbon technologies. The Clean Development Mechanism placed a price on carbon in developing countries, initiating thousands of emissions-reduction projects in China. Putting a price on carbon in the United States would provide an incentive for domestic developers to build similar projects here.

Finally, get serious about supporting the research and development of carbon capture and storage, and maintain America’s lead in a field that offers enormous opportunity but is too large for any one company to finance. Coal is the No. 1 source of greenhouse gas emissions, and the first country to develop economically viable capture-and-storage technology will dictate the terms for reducing carbon dioxide emissions from coal-fired utilities globally.

China is busy turning the global challenge of climate change into a national opportunity, but it needs another decade to advance its technology to the point where superior manufacturing and lower costs will secure its dominance of the clean-tech sector. By giving China more time to develop its capacity while neglecting our own, America is not just losing the clean-tech race, it’s forfeiting it.

Bruce Usher, an executive in residence at Columbia Business School, is the former chief executive of a company that operates emission reduction projects.

Sign

[Havakasha]

Yeah, where is Atypical???

SL, I just call a spade a spade. I'm not here to talk with John. He's not capable of having a decent conversation with people that don't agree with him. He likes to call people names like a young child would. That's not the way to solve any problems or to find conclusions that would help find answers.

But, he is very capable of calling his fellow Americans dumbass twits, socialists and the like.

Havakasha hit the naill on the head a little while ago. He pointed out that John may be another Tim McVey in our midst. Both served in the Gulf War. Both have blinders on and are only capable of seeing their own point of view. Both used foul language when speaking of people they don't agree with. Both had ties to Michigan.

I have followed the ramblings of John for a year. I have never seen anything like him before. I think it's very important that he not be given a soapbox to spew his hate from. SiriusBuzz has provided that for him. So, I'll just follow him around and make sure that our fellow forum members have another way to look at things when he attacks people.

Think about the title of this thread. John states that at least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy. That is just plain hate speech. That's all it is.

I have a son in law from Ecuador. Not lazy or dumb. I know about a dozen other folks from South America. None of them lazy or dumb. And yet, John creates a whole thread saying such negative things about our fellow Americans.

I think John is a very scary person and people should be aware of the dangers that he presents to our melting pot of a society.

By the way SL. Do you have any idea who this Saul Lwinsky is? John has brought him up before. I don't watch TV so I don't know about him. Does he have a TV show like Judge Judy, who seems to be a hero of John's? LOL, that's a scary thought to have heros who are TV actors....LOL

One must continuously be reminded of the kind of hate that he spews. Sad

[candleman]

You see SiriuslyLong let me show you just what a twit candleman is. First of all he never did answer the question (yes when he was responding to me) then what else would you call that. It is ether one or the other. You see that is what they do, if the answer does not go along with their ideology then they just dont bother to answer it. I call that lying and he is a piece of crap for it. He has no integrety what so ever. I have cought him in several blantant lies already. He thinks that is hate and he is right I cant stand a person who cant seem to tell the truth. I would not do business with a lier would you. I suggest for people in his area not to do business with him because you will not get what he says you will. that is clear from the several lies he has told and been cought in. That shows the kind of integrety he has which is none.


I bet he has never asked them, who they voted for and if it was a democrat he never questioned them as to why, would you come from a socialist country and then vote for the very same people whose polocies lead your old country into the place which you think sucks to a point that you had to come here now. You see candleman never wants to get to the jest of the problem. He likes that they dont keep score in games anymore because he is a political correct pussy and a lier to boot.


P.S. If candleman was proud of himself he would have no proplem putting the name of his business up and were it is located.

I own the Sunscents Candle Company located in Duck North Carolina, Salem Candle Mfg. located in Whipple Ohio, and Carova Creations located in Carova Beach North Carolina.

You see John. You can't win!

By the way John, what businesses do you own and where are they located? How many Americans work in these businesses that you own and manage? In the past, you've stated that you don't work. Maybe we'll hear another story now.

[Havakasha]

I own the Sunscents Candle Company located in Duck North Carolina, Salem Candle Mfg. located in Whipple Ohio, and Carova Creations located in Carova Beach North Carolina.

You see John. You can't win!

By the way John, what businesses do you own and where are they located? How many Americans work in these businesses that you own and manage? In the past, you've stated that you don't work. Maybe we'll hear another story now.

John is the only one here who is hiding behind his alias. What does that tell you?

[candleman]

John is the only one here who is hiding behind his alias. What does that tell you?

I think it should give everyone of our forum members something to worry about.

As for me, I'm happy to post my businesses on Sirius Buzz. Several of our fellow members have been to my stores on the Outer Banks while they have vacationed here.

Havakasha, you know that I don't agree with a lot of your politics and ideas. I don't agree with a lot of people. But, it's always nice to have open exchanges of ideas without the childish name calling that this John fellow resorts to when he disagrees with something.

I wish this hate filled thread would just go away. By us conversing here, we're just keeping Johns hate on top of the forum list. I guess it's good that we're exposing his hate filled rhetoric against his fellow Americans. I just wish there was another way to do it.

[Havakasha]

Candleman, its never a bad thing to argue over different points of view. Its only unhealthy when one person can only disagree in a hateful manner such as John displays.

He is never going to change. He only knows one way of talking and its sad that
he cant talk about politics the way he sometimes is able to do about stocks.

Its always a pleasure to converse with you however. Time to move on. Have a great day.

[SiriuslyLong]

Havakasha hit the naill on the head a little while ago. He pointed out that John may be another Tim McVey in our midst. Both served in the Gulf War. Both have blinders on and are only capable of seeing their own point of view. Both used foul language when speaking of people they don't agree with. Both had ties to Michigan.

Hey, watch it LOL

Saul Lewinsky - see link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2256403/posts

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on "hate" as I don't believe that was the intention. He could have used any "socialist leaning" nation to make his point.

Yin and Yang, right?