At least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy.

[candleman]

Thanks Candleman for the John/English dictionary addition.

John says the Earth's temperature is getting colder. I beg to differ.

http://climateprogress.org/2010/05/1...rature-record/

Oh Havakasha, you've got to be kidding. The earth isn't getting colder? You mean to tell me that all of the science that points to warming temperatures is wrong??? You've got to be wrong Havakasha. John says you're wrong and that makes it a fact! I think you need to rethink your thinking on this subject. Are you originally from South America? If you are, John would think that's why you're wrong.

I found these over on the SIRI thread. John says he would never point out spelling or grammar errors. Even though that's exactly what he did, and that's a fact!

JOHN - optumistic
English - optimistic

JOHN - personal ased
English - personally asked

JOHN - noone
English - no one

JOHN - bielieve
English - believe

Havakasha, we all make spelling mistakes. I make them everyday! And I'm not even from South America......I figure the next topic for JOHN will be At least 70% of people that were educated in Cleveland, are just dumb twits that can't spell properly.

By the way, the boycott is doing very well. I'm having a hard time taking care of the new customers...LOL

[john]

The topic of this thread which was started by JOHN is... " At least70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy "

John doesn't seem to have a very high opinion of folks that immigrate to The United States of America from South America. He cites many facts and says some pretty nasty things about these fine people.

I don't think JOHN has shown us how these things he says are proven facts. They seem like opinions to me, and not facts. So, is JOHN a liar? Or, is he just a mean spirited person who likes to attack immigrants from South America? I think he is just a mean spirited person and one that we should all be concerned about.

JOHN spends a lot of time attacking me and other members of the Sirius Buzz community who don't agree with him. I didn't start this thread. JOHN did, and because he can't defend this outlandish opinion, it seems he needs to attack people who are offended by his hate speech.

Below, you will find some things that JOHN says are facts. He posted these thoughts in the SIRI stock thread of all places.....

Yep that is right 70% of South American immagrants are stupid or lazy, those are the facts. Dont think so then what else would you call someone that runs away from their country of origin because it sucks and then votes for the same type of people with the same polocies that turned their country of origin into the piece of crap they could no longer stand being in.

Fact: They all came from heavly socalized countries.

Fact: They all came here for a better life.

Fact: Socalism in their countries did not work out so well for them.

Fact: 70% of them vote for democrats and liberial democrats

Fact: Most democrats and all liberial democrats want socalism here in the United States.

Fact: Ether they know their government/socailism has failed them big or they are stupid.

Conclusion: Only a stupid idiot would vote to put in the same polocies in place in your new country, they just saw fail you and you had to run from. As also said that gos for the same dumbass twits that move from one state to the other for lower taxes and a better economy and then vote for the same type of people they just ran from, people that will raise the state taxes in their new state.

Question: Where are they going to run when they vote in the people that will bring in the same kind of government that messed up their old country, which they originally ran from.

[/QUOTE]


So come on, you just said those facts that I put up were not facts. So why is it that hard for you to beat a dummy, and if so what does that make you, maybe retarded.

Come on, it cant take that long for a semi intelligent man to beat a dummy can it? My only conclusion is that by your own logic you cant be that intelligent. So prove me wrong and for the first time tell us all you are more intelligent then me and answer which of those facts are not facts, AS YOU SAY.

[john]

More words for the John/English dictionary.

Look up above one post. "Then again Havasucker is a lier"

John: Lier
English:Liar

I count 342 uses of the word lier by John
Defintiion of lier=1. One who reclines (I'm definitely laying back right about now). lol. 2. A person or thing that lies, as in wait or in ambush (yep I just ambushed John).lol.


P.S. Its time to get back to the thread at hand. I actually think John is dumber and lazier than at least 70% of the South Americans.

And then what to you call this guy:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...breakfast.html

He obviously cant read can he.

P.S. That was not even the first and second time he did it ether he refered to the news corps as "news-corpse".

[john]

Thanks Candleman for the John/English dictionary addition.

John says the Earth's temperature is getting colder. I beg to differ.

http://climateprogress.org/2010/05/1...rature-record/

Humm wasn't Phil Jones your global warming guy? what is he now saying?

"Phil Jones admits: There has been no global warming since 1995."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-84337497.html

Also you are fully aware of the graph of data I put up that shows temp. went down since 2000 and not up.

[candleman]

So come on, you just said those facts that I put up were not facts. So why is it that hard for you to beat a dummy, and if so what does that make you, maybe retarded.

Come on, it cant take that long for a semi intelligent man to beat a dummy can it? My only conclusion is that by your own logic you cant be that intelligent. So prove me wrong and for the first time tell us all you are more intelligent then me and answer which of those facts are not facts, AS YOU SAY.[/QUOTE]


JOHN, here is a quote from you.

Fact: Most democrats and all liberial democrats want socalism here in the United States.

That isn't a fact, that is your opinion. We all have opinions and I'm glad to listen to your opinions. But, they aren't facts, it's just what you think. There is a difference and that's my point.

It's like the title to this thread. It's your opinion that at least 70% of all South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy. That's not a fact, that's just a mean spirited opinion.

JOHN, you are obviously an intelligent guy. But, you don't get your points across very well. It's very evident that you're still pissed off about the election results from 2008. That's understandable, I am too. But, I'm not going to say mean things about people just because of the way they voted. Or, at least I try not to. I'm sure I do it from time to time, but it's not a good thing to do. Or, at least I don't think it's a good thing to do.

You seem to want to damn every Democrat or everybody that voted for a Democrat. I know that's the point of this thread. It just seems mean the way that you are going about it. The Republican Party will do very well this November. And chances are Republicans will take the Presidency in 2012. Your day of happiness will come. That's the nature of our system. We have bad years, and we have good years. But, all of the negativity that has become a part of the system is keeping really good people from running for office these days. If we all take a little kinder and gentler attitude towards the people that we oppose, we might end up with a better country in the end. I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.

Chuck

[john]

So come on, you just said those facts that I put up were not facts. So why is it that hard for you to beat a dummy, and if so what does that make you, maybe retarded.

Come on, it cant take that long for a semi intelligent man to beat a dummy can it? My only conclusion is that by your own logic you cant be that intelligent. So prove me wrong and for the first time tell us all you are more intelligent then me and answer which of those facts are not facts, AS YOU SAY.

JOHN, here is a quote from you.

Fact: Most democrats and all liberial democrats want socalism here in the United States.

That isn't a fact, that is your opinion. We all have opinions and I'm glad to listen to your opinions. But, they aren't facts, it's just what you think. There is a difference and that's my point.

It's like the title to this thread. It's your opinion that at least 70% of all South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy. That's not a fact, that's just a mean spirited opinion.

JOHN, you are obviously an intelligent guy. But, you don't get your points across very well. It's very evident that you're still pissed off about the election results from 2008. That's understandable, I am too. But, I'm not going to say mean things about people just because of the way they voted. Or, at least I try not to. I'm sure I do it from time to time, but it's not a good thing to do. Or, at least I don't think it's a good thing to do.

You seem to want to damn every Democrat or everybody that voted for a Democrat. I know that's the point of this thread. It just seems mean the way that you are going about it. The Republican Party will do very well this November. And chances are Republicans will take the Presidency in 2012. Your day of happiness will come. That's the nature of our system. We have bad years, and we have good years. But, all of the negativity that has become a part of the system is keeping really good people from running for office these days. If we all take a little kinder and gentler attitude towards the people that we oppose, we might end up with a better country in the end. I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.

Chuck[/QUOTE]


Here you need proof of the fact then why dont you tell me how many democrat senators voted against the healthcare reform bill which is solialist leaning and which all logic dictates will lead to a single payer system, which is totally sociallistic. (As an example you cant get home owners insurance AFTER your house is on fire or burns down. If you could how many insurance companies do you really think would give that kind of insurance or STAY IN BUSINESS AFTER THEY STARTED IT.)

Here dont take my word for it what do you call redistribution of wealth.

On March 25, Democratic Senator Max Baucus called health care reform "an income shift." "It is a shift, a leveling, to help lower income, middle income Americans."

http://www.insurancerate.com/redistr...-obamacare.php

Dont believe Senator Baucus? how about Howerd Dean:

http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2010...edistribution/

Dont believe those two how about Donald Burrick (Obamas appointment to head Medicare and Medicade)

http://www.heartland.org/healthpolic...al_Agenda.html

So now ONCE AGAIN, name me ONE democrat senator that voted against Obamas health care reform bill.

Here I dont know but out of over 230 democrats in the house I would call 217 that voted for it, ALMOST ALL democrats and by the way that means ALL liberial democrats voted for it also. It is my OPINION that if they needed the ones that did not vote for it, to vote for it they would have gotten them but that is just OPINION not fact.

Those are facts not an illusion.


No what I get pissed at most are the twits that voted for his socialist ass and then say, boy I did not know and then in the same breath, FOX is biased and not a good place to get your news from. HOW DO YOU THINK I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT OBAMA WAS. OBAMA, SAID IT HIMSELF, FOX were just the only ones that reported it. All the rest only reported the good things Obama said and almost never mentioned the bad things the guy said. If you dont think so, Really how stupid do you think all those people are in states that went for obama would have voted for him, AFTER HE SAID HIMSELF, He was going to bankrupt the coal industry, if they ever heard him say it at all.


Yes in this day and age, I do dam every democrat they lied to the people when they ran as blue dog democrats (conservative democrats). This democrat party is not the same democrat party of the 70s, 80s, or even the 90s, The progressives have all but taken over that party and if you dont agree then you get forced to agree, so it is basically the samething.

Look at the stupidy of PA 25th district they got pulled in again and voted for a democrat that said he would have voted against the, health care, Cap N Trade, and almost every other polocy of Obama. Yet they still did not learn from what they saw happen with what was supposed to be the blue dog democrats they lied to get in because they have voted part and parcel with the liberials and it is my OPINION that is what this guy just did. I can almost call it fact based on logic he worked for Mertha for that long and you are not going to do that if you are that conservative. My god you want to see how stupid they are they voted for Mertha AFTER he just called them RACIST. Maybe they never heard it because they thought FOX was bias and never tuned in to hear him say it.

Hey you know the problem with it is the democrats do it all the time and the republicans have been letting them get away with it. I dont play that game, I say whats good for the goose is good for the gander. The republicans let the hypocracy go unanswered I dont and they should not ether.


P.S. As an example just take a look at havasuckers latest thread about Glen Beck what he seems to conveniently forget is that Glenn Becks show still gets more viewers then almost all of MSNBC shows COMBINED.

[candleman]

JOHN,
I have to make this quick, I've got a meeting to go to.

First of all, thank you. It's nice to talk about this stuff and not be called a dumbass...LOL

I get your point to a certain degree. You're saying that the Democrat Senators have socialist leaning ideals and vote that way. OK, I can give that to you.

I don't think that means that most Democrats are socialists though. There are a lot of Democrats that are pretty mainstream. They just don't vote for Republicans because they have misconceptions about the party. I could go on and on. And I will later.

I just think there is a difference between Democrats that serve in City, County and State offices and Democrats that win National elections.

I'll follow up later if I get a chance.

Thanks again for trying to be civil here. I know it's not easy....LMAO!

Chuck

[Havakasha]

"it was the hottest April on record in the NASA dataset. More significantly, following fast on the heels of the hottest March and hottest Jan.-Feb.-March on record, it was also the hottest Jan.-Feb.-March-April on record.

Those are what you call facts. The earth is not getting colder no matter what your opinion is john. Sorry.


It was the hottest April on record in the NASA dataset. More significantly, following fast on the heels of the hottest March and hottest Jan-Feb-March on record, it’s also the hottest Jan-Feb-March-April on record [click on figure to enlarge].

The record temperatures we’re seeing now are especially impressive because we’ve been in “the deepest solar minimum in nearly a century.” It now appears to be over. It’s just hard to stop the march of manmade global warming, well, other than by reducing greenhouse gas emissions, that is.

Most significantly, NASA’s March prediction has come true: “It is nearly certain that a new record 12-month global temperature will be set in 2010.″

Software engineer (and former machinist mate in the US Navy) Timothy Chase put together a spreadsheet using the data from NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (click here). In NASA’s dataset, the 12-month running average temperature record was actually just barely set in March — and then easily set in April.

Actually, NASA first made its prediction back in January 2009:


Given our expectation of the next El Niño beginning in 2009 or 2010, it still seems likely that a new global temperature record will be set within the next 1-2 years, despite the moderate negative effect of the reduced solar irradiance.”

Of course, there never was any global cooling — see Must-read AP story: Statisticians reject global cooling; Caldeira — “To talk about global cooling at the end of the hottest decade the planet has experienced in many thousands of years is ridiculous.”

In fact, the 12-month record we just beat was set in … 2007!

Moreover, the overwhelming majority of recent warming went right where scientists had predicted — into the oceans (see “How we know global warming is happening”):



Figure 1: “Total Earth Heat Content [anomaly] from 1950 (Murphy et al. 2009). Ocean data taken from Domingues et al 2008.”

Another 2009 article (draft here) details an analysis of “monthly gridded global temperature and salinity fields from the near-surface layer down to 2000 m depth.”



Figure 2: Time series of global mean heat storage (0–2000 m), measured in 108 Jm-2.

Still warming, after all these years! And just where you’d expect it. This study makes clear that upper ocean heat content, perhaps not surprisingly, is simply far more variable than deeper ocean heat content, and thus an imperfect indicator of the long-term warming trend. And the surface temperature is even more variable.

NASA’s recent draft paper reported: “We conclude that global temperature continued to rise rapidly in the past decade” and “that there has been no reduction in the global warming trend of 0.15-0.20°C/decade that began in the late 1970s.”

NOAA points out that both satellite data sets show about the same amount of warming as the land-based record, “which increased at a rate near 0.16°C/decade (0.29°F/decade) during the same 30-year period” — once you remove the expected stratospheric cooling from the satellite records (see NOAA discussion here).

For the record, it was the second hottest April in both satellite records (UAH and RSS), which appear more sensitive to the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) than the land records.

I asked NASA’s James Hansen last month about the apparent 12-month record confirming his prediction, and he noted, “that conclusion is sensitive to how the global mean is defined…. We will compare several alternatives in an invited review paper for Reviews of Geophysics — it should be ready within a few weeks.”

That caveat noted, it is also worth point out that “there are no permanent weather stations in the Arctic Ocean, the place on Earth that has been warming fastest,” as New Scientist explained (see here and here). “The UK’s Hadley Centre record simply excludes this area, whereas the NASA version assumes its surface temperature is the same as that of the nearest land-based stations.” Thus it is almost certainly the case that the planet has warmed up more this decade than NASA says, and especially more than the UK’s Hadley Center says (see Why are Hadley and CRU withholding vital climate data from the public? and Finally, the truth about the Hadley/CRU data: “The global temperature rise calculated by the Met Office’s HadCRUT record is at the lower end of likely warming”).

After the endless disinformation-based global cooling stories of the past few years, it’s time for the media to start do some serious fact-based global warming stories (unlike this piece of he-said, she-said journalistic crap from the Boston Globe I’ll blog on Monday).

Related Post: Arctic poised to see record low sea ice volume this year

If you liked this post and want to get daily email updates of the latest news and analysis on climate science, solution, and politics, click here. To buy my new book on climate, click here.

Share Print
667
This entry was posted by Joe on Sunday, May 16th, 2010 at 10:10 am and is filed under Science. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently not allowed.



http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/gr...s2005+1998.pdf

[candleman]

JOHN,
I have to make this quick, I've got a meeting to go to.

First of all, thank you. It's nice to talk about this stuff and not be called a dumbass...LOL

I get your point to a certain degree. You're saying that the Democrat Senators have socialist leaning ideals and vote that way. OK, I can give that to you.

I don't think that means that most Democrats are socialists though. There are a lot of Democrats that are pretty mainstream. They just don't vote for Republicans because they have misconceptions about the party. I could go on and on. And I will later.

I just think there is a difference between Democrats that serve in City, County and State offices and Democrats that win National elections.

I'll follow up later if I get a chance.

Thanks again for trying to be civil here. I know it's not easy....LMAO!

Chuck

I've got a few minutes between meetings....

I live in a mostly Republican county. And I would say that most of the Democrats here don't support Health Care Reform as it was passed.
But, the Republicans here could almost be called socialists using your standards. My property tax will go up about 12% this year and that was enacted by a County Commission with mostly Republicans on it. They want to raise my taxes to support public services like schools, libraries, after school programs, employee retirements, public health, public recreation, and so on. Those are all social programs. They ALL ran on a platform of not raising taxes. For those of us that believed them, it turns out that we were lied to.

My point being that both parties suck. And the Republicans can be just as bad as Democrats.

Here's another point. I think Obama is our President because McCain chose Palin as his running mate. I was a McCain man all the way. He's a vet, he's moderate, and he seemed honest to me. But, I chose not to vote for a President in 2008 primarily because Palin scared me more than any other politician that I've ever encountered. And she has proven me correct as far as I am concerned. I'm not alone. I know of dozens of other voters that could not support John McCain because he proved that he couldn't make good choices. I think many people that wouldn't normally have supported a Democrat did in that election because McCain was such a bad candidate. That makes those folks sorry now. But honestly John, they don't deserve to be disrespected. They are hard working people that wanted to vote for a President and they just couldn't endure 4 years of McCain or if he died, Palin. Many of them had seen what George Bush had done to us and they just couldn't take that chance on McCain/Palin.

Just wanted to share that thought with you.

Gotta get back into the meeting again!

[Havakasha]

And then what to you call this guy:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...breakfast.html

He obviously cant read can he.

P.S. That was not even the first and second time he did it ether he refered to the news corps as "news-corpse".

Our President would reduce you to tears in a debate. Sorry. just the facts.

S&L quote: "John your nuts." "... and by the way you spell "hear" H,E,A,R. Slow down. check what you're writing. Too many typo's and people may start to think you're some 8th grader here to agitate Lloyd."

I just love that.