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  1. SiriuslyLong is offline
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    05-16-2010, 10:45 AM #91
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    Thanks SL, I'll check the book out when I get the chance. We're getting into the busy summer tourist season and there isn't much time for book reading until October now....but I'll try.

    It's just amazing that only 47% of households pay Federal Income Tax. That has to be a result of all the tax cutting done by Congress and various Administrations over the last 3 decades. It just doesn't make sense to say that Democrats are Socialists, when most of that tax cutting and free ride giving was done by Republican lead Administrations.

    That's why I'm a non partisan voter. Both major parties have made mistakes that have hurt our country and our basic beliefs. It shouldn't be blamed on either major party solely. They both take a share in this mess.

    But, to keep to the topic of this thread. South American immagrants are NOT lazy or dumb!

    Chuck
    I agree, my post wasn't "topical" as it relates to this thread, and also agree that both parties have made mistakes. Both parties use Keynesian economics because it buries the harsh realities of overconsumption and underproduction. But at this juncture, I'd rather have someone who at least believed in principle that the government that governs least governs best. Obama flat out said at his commencement speech here in Ann Arbor that one shouldn't fear government. It's like calling an arsonist to put out a fire, or hiring an alcoholic to bartend.

    BTW the book is a very easy read - big print, 230 pp, big spacing and lot's of pictures (it's an allegory of 3 men on an island....)

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    05-17-2010, 12:45 PM #92
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    John- you're nuts. Havakasha may cite "arguable facts" (trying to be diplomatic here), but Candleman is pretty staight up. And by the way you spell "hear" H, E, A, R. Slow down. Check what you're writing. Too many typo's and people may start to think you're some 8th grader just here to agitate Lloyd.

    Ho really, do you really think he did not think there were any free clinics in NC., even if he was that dumb, it is easy to google.

    Ho really, you must not have seen what he did when he deleted a post and totally changed it.

    I agree.
    Opps no I dont.
    I almost forgot my ideology.
    Here let me delete that last post noone will know.

    Ho really is he being honest when he qoutes the title OF THIS THREAD. Opps he must have forgot the other 30%. Or do you think he really believes that they are not South Americans. Is he that stupid not to know 70% of South Americans means the other 30% have to be South Americans.


    As for the typos. Unfortunately I dont have a secretary anymore. I used to when I was in business and it was important.

    Example: I bet you use the (really NON)word "ain't" when out with friends but you would never use it in business would you. It is no where close to being proper english but you like most use it all the time.

    Are you getting the point there or should I spell it out more clearly for you.

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    05-17-2010, 12:46 PM #93

    Thanks for the boycott John, business is GREAT!

    Once again, I need to thank JOHN for his boycott of my businesses.

    Since it began last week. We have had 4 visitors to our Duck store that are members of the Sirius Buzz Community. We also have had two guys that follow SIRI mainly on the Satwaves site and one woman that follows the stock mainly on the King of all trades site.

    These are all customers that I may not have had if it was not for JOHN'S boycott of my businesses.

    The one thing that was common between all of these visitors was that they have no respect for JOHN and his hate filled rhetoric. Apparently he has spread that hate speech to other sites on the web and he has been asked to not participate in those other sites.

    So, in JOHN'S honor, I will repost our store details in case any other readers want to come in and visit with us. My wife loves the added attention our store is getting!

    Here is the information one more time.

    Let's get the information correct John.

    The retail store is called SunScents. It's located in the Osprey Landing Shopping area of Duck, North Carolina. The street address is 1190 Duck Road. It's right on the main drag through town. We have a beautiful deck overlooking the 2 mile wide Currituck Sound. In the evenings at sunset, there is almost no better place to enjoy the evening air and the spectacular sunsets as you gaze west at Mainland North Carolina.

    Our store features our own handmade candles in dozens of colors and fragrances. We also carry candles from about 25 of Americas top candle producers. While you're here, we hope you'll also enjoy our wide selection of body lotions, bubble baths, handmade soaps, and bath salts to help eliminate the stress at the end of your busy work day.

    We also feature rustic slate artwork, handmade wreaths, and a large selection of religous items.

    While you're here visiting our shop, you'll also want to visit our fellow shopkeepers that offer Fine Jewlry, Hand Dipped Ice Cream, The Outer Banks Original Warm and Freshmade Doughnut Shop, A Fantastic Pizza Parlor with Killer Sunset Views from the Dining Deck, and an Exquisite Bead Shop (one of the tourists favorite stores besides mine)

    Our visitors will find wonderful outdoor seating areas where they can use the free wifi and enjoy deep political discussions over a cup of coffee.

    And if anyone is interested in emailing and discussing JOHN, here is one of our company email addresses. charlieschocolates@embarqmail.com We're sort of hoping that he starts a boycott of our Chocolate Stores next.

    Thanks JOHN!
    Chuck

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    05-17-2010, 01:08 PM #94
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    I like to stick to the topic of a thread.

    The topic is what John says. And what John says is simply Hate Speech.

    Americans that grew up in South America are NOT dumbass twits or lazy! They are Americans and they deserve to be treated with respect. These citizens chose to come here and they are a wonderful addition to our society. These people go to work everyday and contribute in many magnificent ways to our culture. These Americans that John spoke so poorly of, tend to vote more often than the average American that was born here. That alone is enough to treat them with respect and dignity.

    John is so hate filled that he would like you to beleive that these Americans are not worthy of being treated with respect. I assume that's why he speaks so poorly of them.

    Like I've said before. John's hatred of his fellow Americans is a scar on our country. Thank God that most people are not like him.

    I urge you to follow this guy John around and read his posts. I think you'll find like I do, that he is someone to be concerned about. I know that many of you know this. That is why most members of this online community don't respond to his posts. I continue to print out everything that he writes that is hate filled and forward it to the proper authorities. We live in a great country and we all have freedom of speech. We also have the duty to protect ourselves from hate filled people like John. I honestly think that he has gone off the deep end and is a threat to the safety and freedom that we all deserve to enjoy.
    I wrote this post last Wednesday. In the five days since then, I have become even more concerned about JOHN and his stability. Since then he has continued to express hate towards his fellow Americans, other members of the Sirius Buzz community, and me.

    I continue to stand strong against anyone who expresses this sort of disdain for his fellow humans. This sort of behavior is NOT what makes our society strong. This sort of hatred is NOT what our Founding Fathers had in mind.

    I stongly support JOHN'S right to free speech. But, that same right gives me the freedom to stand against that sort of hate speech and that's what I will continue to do.

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    05-17-2010, 01:59 PM #95
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    I find it simply amazing that JOHN can take his own hate filled opinions about Amerian Citizens and call them facts.

    As you can see from his opinion. Not only does he think most people born in South America that come here and become citizens are stupid idiots and lazy. He also thinks that most Democrats want socialism in Our Country.

    You have to ask yourself where JOHN gets his "facts" from. I've done a lot of research on this topic over the last 2 weeks and I can't find any facts that support his opinions. So, I can only assume that JOHN has his "facts" wrong or he is using sources of information that are not correct.

    Yes, we have seen the kinds of research you do. Remember this is what you said; "There are no free clinics around me or in NC that I know of."

    I suggest you for stop getting your information from the New York Times, and MSNBC, You need and example: There was NOT ONE liberial democrat that did not want a single payer system AT ANY COST. Most other democrats wanted it and if the cost was not so great for it most of the rest would have been fine with it.

    Most Americans agree (even democrats) a single payer system would be socialist.

    Take a look at the break down of the polls of the single payer system and LOOK at the percentages of democrats that find it good. Then take a LOOK at the break down of indepentants and republicans almost none think the single payer plan is good.

    Just tell me when this common sense and logic begins to become to much for you and I will stop, I dont want your brain to explode.

    Ready to move on. OK here we go your right maybe I should have added to the title "crazy" also. Isn't the clinical definition of "insane": Someone that does the samething over and over again and expecting a different result.

    Look at history dumbass, have you ever asked why our system has been the longest lasting system out in that same time span. We have gone over 200 years without a change. Then take a look at all the other systems and how many of them ever lasted that long. Thats right not one. Now, whats the difference???????? Just look at Europe and how they are ONCE AGIAN falling apart after how many years??? Hardly even a quarter of the time that the United States has been going on IT'S same system.



    Siriusly long, you see the lie he wants to say "hate" yet he CONVENIENTLY FORGETS 30% of South Americans are also South American. Do you really think he does not know this or is that a lie. That is just dishonest.

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    05-17-2010, 02:09 PM #96
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    Siriusly long, you see the lie he wants to say "hate" yet he CONVENIENTLY FORGETS 30% of South Americans are also South American. Do you really think he does not know this or is that a lie. That is just dishonest.
    The topic of this thread is "At least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy".

    Now he wants to include the other 30% too?

    There are too many good South American immigrants in this country that don't deserve to have this sort of abuse aimed at them.

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    05-17-2010, 02:43 PM #97
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    Once again, I need to thank JOHN for his boycott of my businesses.

    Since it began last week. We have had 4 visitors to our Duck store that are members of the Sirius Buzz Community. We also have had two guys that follow SIRI mainly on the Satwaves site and one woman that follows the stock mainly on the King of all trades site.

    These are all customers that I may not have had if it was not for JOHN'S boycott of my businesses.

    The one thing that was common between all of these visitors was that they have no respect for JOHN and his hate filled rhetoric. Apparently he has spread that hate speech to other sites on the web and he has been asked to not participate in those other sites.

    So, in JOHN'S honor, I will repost our store details in case any other readers want to come in and visit with us. My wife loves the added attention our store is getting!

    Here is the information one more time.

    Let's get the information correct John.

    The retail store is called SunScents. It's located in the Osprey Landing Shopping area of Duck, North Carolina. The street address is 1190 Duck Road. It's right on the main drag through town. We have a beautiful deck overlooking the 2 mile wide Currituck Sound. In the evenings at sunset, there is almost no better place to enjoy the evening air and the spectacular sunsets as you gaze west at Mainland North Carolina.

    Our store features our own handmade candles in dozens of colors and fragrances. We also carry candles from about 25 of Americas top candle producers. While you're here, we hope you'll also enjoy our wide selection of body lotions, bubble baths, handmade soaps, and bath salts to help eliminate the stress at the end of your busy work day.

    We also feature rustic slate artwork, handmade wreaths, and a large selection of religous items.

    While you're here visiting our shop, you'll also want to visit our fellow shopkeepers that offer Fine Jewlry, Hand Dipped Ice Cream, The Outer Banks Original Warm and Freshmade Doughnut Shop, A Fantastic Pizza Parlor with Killer Sunset Views from the Dining Deck, and an Exquisite Bead Shop (one of the tourists favorite stores besides mine)

    Our visitors will find wonderful outdoor seating areas where they can use the free wifi and enjoy deep political discussions over a cup of coffee.

    And if anyone is interested in emailing and discussing JOHN, here is one of our company email addresses. charlieschocolates@embarqmail.com We're sort of hoping that he starts a boycott of our Chocolate Stores next.

    Thanks JOHN!
    Chuck


    Haa yes I would like to believe you but the you have been proven to have lied before and now as a matter of fact.

    Fact: I was never banned from Satwaves (I never joined them) and as a matter of fact I was asked to join them there and sign up SEVERAL TIMES. I never did because I found the main person there to be a lier and therefore dishonest. I DONT DO BUSINESS WITH DISHONEST PEOPLE. A good thing it seems because most of the people that decided to not take my advise on the subject have learned the hard way. You know, when you do business with a dishonest man you will get burned.

    Hence why KOAT even came to being in the first place.

    I also NOW believe them to be liers because they had promised me what happen would not happen after they INVITED ME to be at THEIR SITE (and yes that was after years of me being on this site and knowing full well who I was). That was my fault, I should have known better. That is OK because now that I do, I will not go ever go back. Once again I do not associate with liers, it is a clear indicator of someone that will be dishonest.

    Maybe if the people at KOAT would have listened to me in the first place they would have known better, then again those are the same ones you just described coming to your business after finding out that you are dishonest.


    Like I said you wont hear from the people that just dont want to come to do business with a dishonest man running it. As for anyone that has and knows you are that gos to show why they dont like me and their logic behind wanting to deal with a dishonest person. I tend to believe the logical out number the illogical and I will keep posting the information of how you are lier and hence dishonest.

    I was proven right about Satwaves. I have proved to be correct about KOAT and that also in time will be proven like at Satwaves. I have proved to be correct about you and also in time will be proven to be correct about you.

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    05-17-2010, 03:11 PM #98
    The topic of this thread which was started by JOHN is... " At least70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy "

    John doesn't seem to have a very high opinion of folks that immigrate to The United States of America from South America. He cites many facts and says some pretty nasty things about these fine people.

    I don't think JOHN has shown us how these things he says are proven facts. They seem like opinions to me, and not facts. So, is JOHN a liar? Or, is he just a mean spirited person who likes to attack immigrants from South America? I think he is just a mean spirited person and one that we should all be concerned about.

    JOHN spends a lot of time attacking me and other members of the Sirius Buzz community who don't agree with him. I didn't start this thread. JOHN did, and because he can't defend this outlandish opinion, it seems he needs to attack people who are offended by his hate speech.

    Below, you will find some things that JOHN says are facts. He posted these thoughts in the SIRI stock thread of all places.....

    Yep that is right 70% of South American immagrants are stupid or lazy, those are the facts. Dont think so then what else would you call someone that runs away from their country of origin because it sucks and then votes for the same type of people with the same polocies that turned their country of origin into the piece of crap they could no longer stand being in.

    Fact: They all came from heavly socalized countries.

    Fact: They all came here for a better life.

    Fact: Socalism in their countries did not work out so well for them.

    Fact: 70% of them vote for democrats and liberial democrats

    Fact: Most democrats and all liberial democrats want socalism here in the United States.

    Fact: Ether they know their government/socailism has failed them big or they are stupid.

    Conclusion: Only a stupid idiot would vote to put in the same polocies in place in your new country, they just saw fail you and you had to run from. As also said that gos for the same dumbass twits that move from one state to the other for lower taxes and a better economy and then vote for the same type of people they just ran from, people that will raise the state taxes in their new state.

    Question: Where are they going to run when they vote in the people that will bring in the same kind of government that messed up their old country, which they originally ran from.[/QUOTE]

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    05-17-2010, 03:19 PM #99
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    The topic of this thread is "At least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy".

    Now he wants to include the other 30% too?

    There are too many good South American immigrants in this country that don't deserve to have this sort of abuse aimed at them.


    You are not only dishonest but stupid to. In your case I am not sure which one is worse. Dumbass, if you take 70% from a 100% that means I dont have a problem with 30% of them what is the difference between the 30% and the 70%? They are all South Americans (You know what the difference is but you have to lie to try and stop opposing opinions, Humm for someone that claims not to know about "rules for radicals", you seem to take a play right straight from the book). You know then agian what do all you liberials say, ends justify the means.

    You are right, there are 30% of them that dont deserve to have it and that is why they are not called stupid or lazy. That 30% has lived under a socailist government and wants nothing to do with it again. THEY REMEBERED THE REASON THEY CAME HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. You see not something that is that hard to remember is it and anyone that does not, is stupid or they know full well what living in that kind of system was like and wanted it but wants more money from it.


    You see dumbass ether your stupidity or your dishonesty for your ideology has you all messed up. Do you really think if it was the other way around (70% vote republican and only 30% vote democrat) democrats would not be putting all the illegal immagrants on a fast bus back to where they came from. The thing is if it were that way the fence along the border would have been built by now.

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    05-17-2010, 03:40 PM #100
    JOHN says that At LEAST70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy.

    Now he wants to make us think that he didn't mean to use the words "at least". But, that's what he said, and that's a fact.

    And then JOHN wants to talk about illegal immigrants and how they vote for Democrats. JOHN needs to understand that illegal immigrants can't vote legally.

    And JOHN wants to talk about a border fence somewhere...... I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that immigrants that come here from South America to become the voting Citizens that he refers to as "dumb twits or just lazy" don't come here illegally. And I'm pretty sure that fences are not going to keep South Americans out of our country. A fence might keep illegal Mexicans out. But, those are North Americans, not South Americans.

    I'm starting to see JOHN'S agenda here. He just wants to bash Democrats. If all South American immigrants voted Republican, JOHN would be a happy camper.

    JOHN is working very hard at defending his hate speech. But, he's not doing a very good job of it!


    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    You are not only dishonest but stupid to. In your case I am not sure which one is worse. Dumbass, if you take 70% from a 100% that means I dont have a problem with 30% of them what is the difference between the 30% and the 70%? They are all South Americans (You know what the difference is but you have to lie to try and stop opposing opinions, Humm for someone that claims not to know about "rules for radicals", you seem to take a play right straight from the book). You know then agian what do all you liberials say, ends justify the means.

    You are right, there are 30% of them that dont deserve to have it and that is why they are not called stupid or lazy. That 30% has lived under a socailist government and wants nothing to do with it again. THEY REMEBERED THE REASON THEY CAME HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. You see not something that is that hard to remember is it and anyone that does not, is stupid or they know full well what living in that kind of system was like and wanted it but wants more money from it.


    You see dumbass ether your stupidity or your dishonesty for your ideology has you all messed up. Do you really think if it was the other way around (70% vote republican and only 30% vote democrat) democrats would not be putting all the illegal immagrants on a fast bus back to where they came from. The thing is if it were that way the fence along the border would have been built by now.

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