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  1. john is offline
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    12-14-2009, 10:22 AM #1

    AP busted on its bias again, my god will the truth ever stop coming out.

    Yep, thats just what the AP has got to be saying at this point. I know they must be pissed others check the APs facts. I just have to say, its because people are not as sheepish as they once were.




    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...ll_clear#64865

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    12-14-2009, 12:42 PM #2
    Ho and here are a few other things the AP got wrong:


    Arctic Scare! AP's Borenstein out of control (again) - Warns of 'Tipping Point' - Quotes James Hansen, Bob Corell & a Greenpeace 'scientist' - August 28, 2008

    Excerpt: More ominous signs Wednesday have scientists saying that a global warming "tipping point" in the Arctic seems to be happening before their eyes: Sea ice in the Arctic Ocean is at its second lowest level in about 30 years. [...] Five climate scientists, four of them specialists on the Arctic, told The Associated Press that it is fair to call what is happening in the Arctic a "tipping point." NASA scientist James Hansen, who sounded the alarm about global warming 20 years ago before Congress, said the sea ice melt "is the best current example" of that. [...] On top of that, researchers were investigating "alarming" reports in the last few days of the release of methane from long frozen Arctic waters, possibly from the warming of the sea, said Greenpeace climate scientist Bill Hare, who was attending a climate conference in Ghana.

    [Marc Morano Rebuttal to AP Reporter Seth Borenstein's Shoddy and Incomplete Arctic Article – (No surprise, Borenstein has a woeful climate reporting history – see below) Note: Associated Press reporter Seth Borenstein pulled out all the gadgets for this comical article on Arctic sea ice dropping to 'record level'. He got to use the phrase “tipping point” , he quoted James Hansen and Greenpeace 'climate scientist' Bill Hare (Greenpeace International describes Hare as it's “Climate Policy Director”) Borenstein's citation of Bob Corell as a neutral researcher completely ignores the fact that Corell is an environmental activist who works for Teresa Heinz Kerry's The Heinz Center, (yes the same ones who gave Hansen $250,000 award before Hansen endorsed Teresa Heinz Kerry's husband John Kerry for prez in 2004) Corell was embarrassed in 2007 by a his unsupportable claims about Greenland. Corell's assertion in a September 8, 2007 UK Guardian article that earthquakes triggered by melting ice are increasing in Greenland was rebuffed by University of North Carolina's Jose Rial. Rial is a prominent climatologist/seismologist working on glacial seismic activity in Greenland. Corell's erroneous claim prompted Rial to take the unusual step of writing a letter to the UK Guardian. "I also know that there is no evidence to suggest that these quakes 'are happening far faster than ever anticipated' [as Corell claimed,"] wrote Rial in a September 13 letter. Rial criticized the newspaper for presenting a 'falling-sky' alarmist perspective and added that "it will take years of continued surveying to know whether anything here [in Greenland] is 'accelerating' towards catastrophe, as the article [featuring Corell] claims." See: Rial's critique of Corell here]

    More Borenstein: AP's Borenstein at it again: Claims Greenland ice crack result of AGW despite reporting it is 'normal' – [Note: For real story on Greenland and how temperatures there have actually COOLED or stayed the same since the late 1930's and 40's before 80% of man-made CO2 was released see here: Latest Scientific Studies Refute Fears of Greenland Melt – July 2007 -]

    1) Borenstein claim: In northern Greenland, a part of the Arctic that had seemed immune from global warming, new satellite images show a growing giant crack and an 11-square-mile chunk of ice hemorrhaging off a major glacier, scientists said Thursday.

    2) But Borenstein does at least reveal a counter view of the issue in the article: Excerpt: University of Colorado professor Konrad Steffen, who returned from Greenland Wednesday and has studied the Petermann glacier in the past, said that what Box saw is not too different from what he saw in the 1990s: "The crack is not alarming... I would say it is normal."

    3) But, Borenstein, cannot let Steffen's comment that the ice crack is “normal” go unchallenged so he plays the old “consistent with” climate change game.

    4) Borenstein: “Scientists don't like to attribute single events to global warming, but often say such events fit a pattern.”

    Borenstein's Long History: AP's Seth Borenstein has a long history of attempting to promote climate hysteria. [To read more about Borenstein's woeful reporting see: AP INCORRECTLY CLAIMS SCIENTISTS PRAISE GORE'S MOVIE - - Scientists Counter Computer Model Sea Level Rise Fears - - Media Hype on 'Melting' Antarctic Ignores Record Ice Growth ]




    DO YOU STILL WANT TO PUT YOUR BLIND TRUST IN THE AP. I dont I check to see if what they are saying is factual or not.

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    12-14-2009, 12:45 PM #3
    The AP news division was run by a Bush guy wasnt it? The left was up in arms about the AP bias against Obama during the elections.

    I quess you got more in common with those communists than you knew.

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    12-14-2009, 02:24 PM #4

    "Centers for Medicareactuary warns Senate bill will cost more."

    If anything it just gos to show republicans just report the news because anyone that has read the AP knows the liberial bias has been there for more then the last decade.


    Humm as for the AP reporting about Obama It is funny how they failed to report on Rev. Wright for over a year after he was outed. Also I never saw one word from the AP on the things he said about wanting to bankrupt the coal power plants, I could go on and on the fact is the left complains that MSNBC is attacking Obama if they say he burped.
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    12-14-2009, 03:14 PM #5
    Just look at these examples of the AP and then ask yourselves if you believe them.


    Arctic Scare! AP's Borenstein out of control (again) - Warns of 'Tipping Point' - Quotes James Hansen, Bob Corell & a Greenpeace 'scientist' - August 28, 2008

    Excerpt: More ominous signs Wednesday have scientists saying that a global warming "tipping point" in the Arctic seems to be happening before their eyes: Sea ice in the Arctic Ocean is at its second lowest level in about 30 years. [...] Five climate scientists, four of them specialists on the Arctic, told The Associated Press that it is fair to call what is happening in the Arctic a "tipping point." NASA scientist James Hansen, who sounded the alarm about global warming 20 years ago before Congress, said the sea ice melt "is the best current example" of that. [...] On top of that, researchers were investigating "alarming" reports in the last few days of the release of methane from long frozen Arctic waters, possibly from the warming of the sea, said Greenpeace climate scientist Bill Hare, who was attending a climate conference in Ghana.

    [Marc Morano Rebuttal to AP Reporter Seth Borenstein's Shoddy and Incomplete Arctic Article – (No surprise, Borenstein has a woeful climate reporting history – see below) Note: Associated Press reporter Seth Borenstein pulled out all the gadgets for this comical article on Arctic sea ice dropping to 'record level'. He got to use the phrase “tipping point” , he quoted James Hansen and Greenpeace 'climate scientist' Bill Hare (Greenpeace International describes Hare as it's “Climate Policy Director”) Borenstein's citation of Bob Corell as a neutral researcher completely ignores the fact that Corell is an environmental activist who works for Teresa Heinz Kerry's The Heinz Center, (yes the same ones who gave Hansen $250,000 award before Hansen endorsed Teresa Heinz Kerry's husband John Kerry for prez in 2004) Corell was embarrassed in 2007 by a his unsupportable claims about Greenland. Corell's assertion in a September 8, 2007 UK Guardian article that earthquakes triggered by melting ice are increasing in Greenland was rebuffed by University of North Carolina's Jose Rial. Rial is a prominent climatologist/seismologist working on glacial seismic activity in Greenland. Corell's erroneous claim prompted Rial to take the unusual step of writing a letter to the UK Guardian. "I also know that there is no evidence to suggest that these quakes 'are happening far faster than ever anticipated' [as Corell claimed,"] wrote Rial in a September 13 letter. Rial criticized the newspaper for presenting a 'falling-sky' alarmist perspective and added that "it will take years of continued surveying to know whether anything here [in Greenland] is 'accelerating' towards catastrophe, as the article [featuring Corell] claims." See: Rial's critique of Corell here]

    More Borenstein: AP's Borenstein at it again: Claims Greenland ice crack result of AGW despite reporting it is 'normal' – [Note: For real story on Greenland and how temperatures there have actually COOLED or stayed the same since the late 1930's and 40's before 80% of man-made CO2 was released see here: Latest Scientific Studies Refute Fears of Greenland Melt – July 2007 -]

    1) Borenstein claim: In northern Greenland, a part of the Arctic that had seemed immune from global warming, new satellite images show a growing giant crack and an 11-square-mile chunk of ice hemorrhaging off a major glacier, scientists said Thursday.

    2) But Borenstein does at least reveal a counter view of the issue in the article: Excerpt: University of Colorado professor Konrad Steffen, who returned from Greenland Wednesday and has studied the Petermann glacier in the past, said that what Box saw is not too different from what he saw in the 1990s: "The crack is not alarming... I would say it is normal."

    3) But, Borenstein, cannot let Steffen's comment that the ice crack is “normal” go unchallenged so he plays the old “consistent with” climate change game.

    4) Borenstein: “Scientists don't like to attribute single events to global warming, but often say such events fit a pattern.”

    Borenstein's Long History: AP's Seth Borenstein has a long history of attempting to promote climate hysteria. [To read more about Borenstein's woeful reporting see: AP INCORRECTLY CLAIMS SCIENTISTS PRAISE GORE'S MOVIE - - Scientists Counter Computer Model Sea Level Rise Fears - - Media Hype on 'Melting' Antarctic Ignores Record Ice Growth ]

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    12-14-2009, 04:09 PM #6
    Really it looks like it was the AP that got busted.

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    12-14-2009, 04:22 PM #7
    Hey Havasaka I can be here all day I am retired so this day is like any other for me. I wont let you get away with this as a matter of fact I am going to just bury every post you do.

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    12-14-2009, 08:09 PM #8
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