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  1. john is offline
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    09-27-2009, 03:00 PM #31
    Now I am sorry I am using another post to respond to Havakasha (aka: lloyd Handwerker) but I was laughing so hard I had to go pee and wipe the tears from my eyes after I picked myself up off the floor.


    Now where was I, ho yea I see Havakasha (aka: lloyd Handwerker) you got one part of of the first question done and it only took 3 post now where is the rest of it. I know I know you are asking what am I talking about. Well here you are: "The Environmental Protection Agency on April 17, 2009 issued a proposed finding that contribute to climate change. The six gases; carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons and sulfur hexafluoride are all greenhouse gases". So you got one of them where are the other 5.


    You have had 3 months and you only where able to get the first part of the first question. What is it going to take another 3 months before I get the second part of the first question. Lets hurry up I am 43 now and I dont think I have that much time the way you are going.


    Please note the 1st question again it says "global warming gases" not gas and not just CO2.

    P.S. Try doing the amount of sulfur airsols next
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    09-27-2009, 06:25 PM #32
    John and Lloyd, you guys are just too funny.

    Somehow you've turned a thread about a fruitcake that thinks watching porn makes you gay, into a discussion on global warming.

    If the two of you would keep on subject, there would be less hot air and a cooler climate!

    So, have either of you seen any good porn lately? And if you have, did it make you hot for another guy? Just curious. I know better, but I just had to ask since that is the subject of this thread.

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    09-27-2009, 08:46 PM #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    I will remind John that this was a thread about a Repbulican Party official who made some absurd and indefensible comments about homosexuality. Since John seems to get on everybody about not answering his questions and changing subjects i have to ask why he doesnt follow his own rules and deal with the subject that has been written in this thread. What did you think about what this party official had to say? Tick tock.
    I tried my best Candleman but John peed in his pants.

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    09-27-2009, 11:27 PM #34
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Good I am glade you want a clearer answer on that and I will be more then happy to answer that for you but first answer the questions I have been asking you to answer for months now. Here they are AGAIN:


    I am still waiting Lloyd for that answer to my question as to; How did the Bush tax cuts cause this recession.




    I am also still waiting for the answers on

    1) If volcanos put out more global warming gases in one eruption then humans have the last 20 years how can humans be a such a big part of the equation.

    2) If the oceans put out 98% of the global warming gases and everything else and humans are responsible for the other 2% then how can humans be such a big part of the equation.

    3) If your own UN studies say that cows put out more global warming gases then all the cars then how are humans so much of the equation.

    I will help you out here by giving you a picture maybe you can rap your mind around. If we were to take the Super Dome and fill it up with people to represent all the global warming gases put out on the planet and then take a count of the people to represent what humans put out. Do you know how many people in that dome would be????? thats right, just 4.



    Once again I will be more then happy to answer your question after you answer those.


    P.S. Lloyd these questions will not go away until you stop avoiding, bury, giving dumb reasons as to why you are not answering them. The only way they will go away is if you just simply answer them. Lloyd you want to know why I know you will never answer those questions because not once have I ever got an answer to them from every person that believes in global warming that I ask those very same questions, not once do they answer them. I know why and so do you and they know why. You wont answer them because the answers prove you are wrong on global warming. Your type really thinks that most believes your reasons for not answering these. I am telling you right now most dont and can see right through your bullshit excuses.
    The answers are staring you in the face John. The questions are absurd and the premises are false. For someone who claims to have enormous amounts of common sense you dont even demonstrate a basic knowledge of logic. If everything you say is true why would the overwhelming majority of CLIMATE SCIENTISTS agree that Human activity has caused the global temperature to increase? You got to stop getting your info from those right wing blogs (Mr. Inhofe i presume) and talk to the Climate scientists for a change.

    Lets take #3 for example.
    "internationally the livestock sector (that includes transportation and all aspects of bringing livestock to your table) accounts for 18% of greenhouse gases- more than the transportation sector." This was from a 2006 UN report under Bush. "Others say that animal agriculture would account for 10 or 11 per cent of greenhouse gases" and that the transportation sector "which the EPA estimates accounts for roughtly 29% of greenhouse gas emissions." So the figures are disputed and dependent on which administration controls the reports. BUT JOHN DONT YOU UNDERSTAND?
    That is the livestock SECTOR John. The SECTOR. Should i repeat it again? lol. That leaves at least 82% of greenhouse gasses left to asign and most of that comes from human activity (transportation, factories, homes, etc.)

    Your premise is false.
    Your way too cocky.
    You really havent schooled anyone john. you're just reading your right wing websites again and regurgitating them. James Inhofe is a joke. sorry.

    No 2 is coming soon John. "Anticipation is keeping me waiting" Suspense.LOL.
    If you want more on 3 i will be happy to oblige.

    John "not once did i ever get an answer". i know.i know. You are going to say that you dont consider my answer an answer. You're very tricky John but not very truthful unfortunately.

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    09-27-2009, 11:56 PM #35
    "Carbon dioxide-released when we burn fossil fuels to produce electricity, use gasoline in our cars, or witch on our natural gas stoves for cooking-has BEEN SINGLED OUT AS THE BIGGEST FACTOR in changing the Earth's climatic conditions. Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution an estimated 350 BILLION TONS have been released throught the burning of fossil fuels"
    "Methane is another cited for global warming. it is a gas created naturally as a waste product of anaerobic bacteria (living with little or no oxygen). These bacteria produce methand gas in waterlogged soils and wetlands, but also in human -produced environments like rice paddies. An estimated 19% of methane gas comes from rice paddies. the other top sources of methane gas in the atmospher are wetlands (20.2 %), ruminants or CUD-CHEWING ANIMALS LIKE CATTLE (14%. That's only 14% of methane gas John.), biomass fires , such as BURNING FORESTS (9.7%), OIL AND PIPELINE LEAKS (7.9%), termites (7 %), COAL MINING (6.2%), landfills (6.2%) , animal wastes (5 %) and sewage (4.4%)
    NIROGEN compounds, the primary pollutants that contribute to air pollution, also augment in inreasing the planet's average temeprature . The most comon of these compounds are nitrogen oxide and nitrogen dioxide. As with other POLLUTANTS butrigeb compounds COME PRIMARILY FROM AUTOMOBILES AND ELECTRIC POWER-GENERATING PLANTS. "
    "ANOTHER WHICH IS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY PRODUCED BY HUMAN
    ACTIVITY IS THE CHOLOROFLUOROCARBONS (CFC'S) scientists say that CFC is approximately 15,000 times more effecient as a greenhouse gas than carbon disoxide.

    This was published on july 23, 2009. So cattle is only 14% of METHANE gas which contributes less to greenhouses gases than CO2

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    09-28-2009, 12:18 AM #36
    JOHN it is sulfur AEROSOLS not airsols. LOL. you cant even get the basic terms right but you are one heck of a scientist. LOL>

    "one might be tempted to view sulfur pollution as a shield against the warming effect of greenhouse gases, BUT RESEARCHERS WHO HAVE STUDIED AEROSOLS REJECT THAT NOTION, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. Sulfur pollution causes acid rain and creates view-robbing haze, not only in cities but also in rural areas such as the Grand Canyon. The United States and many other nations are currently attmepting to reduce sulfur emissions not encourage them. WHAT IS MORE , SULFUR AEROSOLS DO NOT (JOHN IT SAYS DO NOT. YOU KNOW WHAT NOT IS? LOL.) PROVIDE TRUE PROTECTION AGAINST GREENHOUSE GASES, CLIMATE EXPERTS SAY... EVEN IF SULFUR POLLUTION SLOWS A TEMPERATURE RISE IN ONE REGION, IT MIGHT NOT PROTECT THAT REGION FROM DROUGHTS, FLOODS, SEA-LEVEL RISE, OR OTHER CONSEQUENCES OF CLIMATE CHANGE. MOREOVER, AEROSOLS DO NOT PROVIDE COOLING POWER AT NIGHT WHEREAS GREENHOUSE GASES TRAP HEAT 24 HOURS A DAY. PERHAPS BECAUSE OF THIS DIFFERENCE, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF NIGHTTIME WARMING HAS OCCURRED OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS IN THE U.S., CHINA AND THE FORMER SOVIET UNION."
    "IN THE LONG RUN, SULFUR POLLUTION CANNOT KEEP PACE WITH GREENHOUSE GASES, BECAUSE THE LATTER PERSIST IN THE ATMOSPHERE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, SAYS JAMES HANSEEN, A CLIMATE MODELER AT NASA'S GODDARD INSTITUTE FOR SPACE STUDIES"
    "HANSEN WARNS THAT SULFUR AEROSLS MAY FOSTER A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY BY MASKING THE FULL EXTENT OF THE GREENHOUSE PROBLEM AT PRECISELY THE TIME WHEN INTERVENTION IS MOST FEASIBILE.
    WE MAY HAVE A LARGER WARMING IN STORE THAN THE PRESENT TREND WOULD SUGGEST."

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Haze+c...use-a012140641

    IN CASE YOU WANT TO READ THE WHOLE THING.

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    09-28-2009, 01:12 AM #37
    Its a good thing you hide behind John's skirt. That's a compliment actually. At least you dont try to pretend you know everything. Socalledintelligent is actually a better name for John. Maybe i should just try to stick to calling you Mr. fool. What you think?
    But you do seem to know an awful lot about 2 second wonders. Hmmm!

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    09-28-2009, 09:10 AM #38
    Quote Originally Posted by socalrunningfool View Post
    I know this Havasaki had to make it to senior member faster than anyone. Always knew he was a two second wonder.

    Candleman. Your porn question. I have never seen male gay porn. If you have a solid recommendation of the female variety. Please feel free to send it on over to me. TIA.
    Good Morning SoCal, I've got no experience either. But, perhaps we could meet in Kansas and check it out someday. In the meantime, I'm dying laughing my butt off over this thread. See you on the investing side!

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    09-28-2009, 11:00 AM #39
    John is busy right now doing a lot of right wing research, and i thought since he knew everything and no one has EVER answered his questions he might have had it all at his finger tips. I cant wait for the ballroom blitz.

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    09-28-2009, 02:42 PM #40
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    First I have to say this, you see Havakasha (aka; lloyd Handwerker) what happens when you use different names. You tend to forget what the other name has wrote prior. Lets see you just said this under this name "Havakasha":

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    "Now John i founnd many other scientific responses to your premise. I could post more if you wish?
    If i was you i would simply say i "schooled you", but i dont like to act like a 12 year old (something you seem to know a lot about) so i will refrain from your childish antics."

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    But while you forgot, I did not. You first said this under this name "lloyd Handwerker":

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    "Schooled again."

    As proof goto this link (look at post 115)

    http://siriusbuzz.com/forum/showthre...1299#post51299

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    Forgive me but, EXCUSE ME. Are you kidding me and then you ask why I call you a twit. That was one of the most unbelievible things I have ever seen. So now what was it you said about someone who says "Schooled". I think you just called yourself a 12 year old that uses childish antics. What did you forget the only reason I used it was because you used it on me first.

    First this was to good for it to be buried by Havakasha or lloyd Handwerker or what everelse you want to call yourself.

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