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  1. just sirius is offline
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    09-19-2009, 01:54 AM #1

    The people cont to speak

    Latest unbiased Rasmussen Poll

    Health Care Reform
    Opposition to Health Care Plan Hits New High of 56%
    Friday, September 18, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement

    Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters nationwide now oppose the health care reform proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s the highest level of opposition yet measured and includes 44% who are Strongly Opposed.

    Just 43% now favor the proposal, including 24% who Strongly Favor it.

    But the overall picture remains one of stability. While the numbers have bounced a bit following nationally televised appearances by the president to promote the plan, opposition has generally stayed above 50% since early July. Support has been in the low to mid 40s.

    The number who Strongly Oppose the plan has remained above 40% and the Strongly Favor totals have been in the mid-20s. This suggests public opinion is hardening when it comes to the plan that is currently working its way through Congress.

    However, now just 48% say that health care reform plan is at least somewhat likely to pass this year, a figure that has been trending down in recent days.

    That figure includes 17% who say passage is Very Likely.

    Rasmussen Reports has been tracking support for the health care plan on a daily basis since the president's speech to Congress last week intended to revitalize the troubled initiative. Given the seemingly settled nature of this week's findings, we will now begin to track support for the plan on a weekly basis (see day-by-day numbers).

    (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

    While many credit or blame the town hall protests for building opposition to the plan, it appears they were simply a reflection of public opinion rather than a creator of it.

    This sense is confirmed by the fact that Obama’s approval ratings fell more in June and July before stabilizing in August.

    One thing that did change during the month of August is that public perception of the protesters improved. after the initial shock wore off. Most voters came to believe that the purpose of the town hall meetings was for members of Congress to listen rather than speak.

    That’s partly because just 22% believe Congress has a good understanding of the legislation.

    [B]While some Democrats have charged that opposition to the president’s plan is based upon racism, just 12% of voters agree. [/B

    Prior to the president's speech, most people with insurance said it’s likely they would be forced to change coverage if the plan passes. As Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, wrote recently in the Wall Street Journal: “The most important fundamental is that 68% of American voters have health insurance coverage they rate good or excellent … Most of these voters approach the health care reform debate fearing that they have more to lose than to gain.”

    If the plan passes, 26% of voters say the quality of care will get better, and 51% say it will get worse. In August, the numbers were 23% better and 50% worse.

    Fifty-one percent (51%) say passage of the plan will make the cost of health care go up while 20% say it will make costs go down. In August, 52% thought the plan would lead to higher costs, and just 17% thought it would achieve the stated goal of lowering costs.

    Voters overwhelmingly believe that every American should be able to buy the same health insurance plan that Congress has. Most favor limits on jury awards for medical malpractice claims and think that tort reform will significantly reduce the cost of health care. Forty-eight percent (48%) want a prohibition on abortion in any government subsidized program while 13% want a mandate requiring abortion coverage.

    The health care debate has produced a difficult political environment for Democrats.

    Several incumbent Democratic senators currently are behind in their reelection bids including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in Nevada, Chris Dodd in Connecticut and Michael Bennet in Colorado. Republicans appear to have a better shot than expected at hanging on to the New Hampshire Senate seat, and GOP incumbent Richard Burr leads in North Carolina.


    Democrats also trail in the 2009 governor’s races in New Jersey and Virginia.

    Sounds like the people are speaking to me!


    The health care debate has become one focal point for voters frustrated by a string of government actions. Voters overwhelmingly opposed the bailout of the financial industry and the bailout and takeover of General Motors

  2. just sirius is offline
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    09-19-2009, 06:43 PM #2
    BTW Lloyd and Havaska

    Taken from a unbiased source!

  3. Atypical is offline
    09-19-2009, 09:40 PM #3

    Wow

    YES. Always accept anything from ALL sources if they support your point of view.

    Never question, bias, quality of sources or scientific methodology.

    And never question humans propensity to be manipulated. Ask a question in a certain way and get the answer you wanted.

    NEVER HAPPEN. RIGHT????

    Oh and by the way, never assume that the news can sway public opinion - even if it's wrong.We humans are sooo perfect. We would see thru this in a minute!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by just sirius View Post
    Latest unbiased Rasmussen Poll

    Health Care Reform
    Opposition to Health Care Plan Hits New High of 56%
    Friday, September 18, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement

    Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters nationwide now oppose the health care reform proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s the highest level of opposition yet measured and includes 44% who are Strongly Opposed.

    Just 43% now favor the proposal, including 24% who Strongly Favor it.

    But the overall picture remains one of stability. While the numbers have bounced a bit following nationally televised appearances by the president to promote the plan, opposition has generally stayed above 50% since early July. Support has been in the low to mid 40s.

    The number who Strongly Oppose the plan has remained above 40% and the Strongly Favor totals have been in the mid-20s. This suggests public opinion is hardening when it comes to the plan that is currently working its way through Congress.

    However, now just 48% say that health care reform plan is at least somewhat likely to pass this year, a figure that has been trending down in recent days.

    That figure includes 17% who say passage is Very Likely.

    Rasmussen Reports has been tracking support for the health care plan on a daily basis since the president's speech to Congress last week intended to revitalize the troubled initiative. Given the seemingly settled nature of this week's findings, we will now begin to track support for the plan on a weekly basis (see day-by-day numbers).

    (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

    While many credit or blame the town hall protests for building opposition to the plan, it appears they were simply a reflection of public opinion rather than a creator of it.

    This sense is confirmed by the fact that Obama’s approval ratings fell more in June and July before stabilizing in August.

    One thing that did change during the month of August is that public perception of the protesters improved. after the initial shock wore off. Most voters came to believe that the purpose of the town hall meetings was for members of Congress to listen rather than speak.

    That’s partly because just 22% believe Congress has a good understanding of the legislation.

    [B]While some Democrats have charged that opposition to the president’s plan is based upon racism, just 12% of voters agree. [/B

    Prior to the president's speech, most people with insurance said it’s likely they would be forced to change coverage if the plan passes. As Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, wrote recently in the Wall Street Journal: “The most important fundamental is that 68% of American voters have health insurance coverage they rate good or excellent … Most of these voters approach the health care reform debate fearing that they have more to lose than to gain.”

    If the plan passes, 26% of voters say the quality of care will get better, and 51% say it will get worse. In August, the numbers were 23% better and 50% worse.

    Fifty-one percent (51%) say passage of the plan will make the cost of health care go up while 20% say it will make costs go down. In August, 52% thought the plan would lead to higher costs, and just 17% thought it would achieve the stated goal of lowering costs.

    Voters overwhelmingly believe that every American should be able to buy the same health insurance plan that Congress has. Most favor limits on jury awards for medical malpractice claims and think that tort reform will significantly reduce the cost of health care. Forty-eight percent (48%) want a prohibition on abortion in any government subsidized program while 13% want a mandate requiring abortion coverage.

    The health care debate has produced a difficult political environment for Democrats.

    Several incumbent Democratic senators currently are behind in their reelection bids including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in Nevada, Chris Dodd in Connecticut and Michael Bennet in Colorado. Republicans appear to have a better shot than expected at hanging on to the New Hampshire Senate seat, and GOP incumbent Richard Burr leads in North Carolina.


    Democrats also trail in the 2009 governor’s races in New Jersey and Virginia.

    Sounds like the people are speaking to me!


    The health care debate has become one focal point for voters frustrated by a string of government actions. Voters overwhelmingly opposed the bailout of the financial industry and the bailout and takeover of General Motors
    Last edited by Atypical; 09-19-2009 at 09:42 PM.

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    09-20-2009, 04:49 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Atypical View Post
    YES. Always accept anything from ALL sources if they support your point of view.

    Never question, bias, quality of sources or scientific methodology.

    And never question humans propensity to be manipulated. Ask a question in a certain way and get the answer you wanted.

    NEVER HAPPEN. RIGHT????

    Oh and by the way, never assume that the news can sway public opinion - even if it's wrong.We humans are sooo perfect. We would see thru this in a minute!!!




    Hey dumbass Rasmussen and zogby have been found to have been the most accurate. They called the last 3 elections closer then every other poll except one. That one was only closer on the Bush/Kerry race. Guess who was 2nd and a close third, yea thats right Zoggby and then Rasmussen. They have been proven to be unbias because of the results they have. When you are correct as much as they are, people from both parties believe them and ether party worries when their poll shows results that gos against them. I dont care what your feelings are about the public view if ether one of them has a poll that shows differently then you better be ready to retract what you said. I'll tell you what you show me one poll from ether of them that gos against what I say and you wont have me tearing it apart like the others because they have been shown to be reliable. Most people (from ether party) will tell you ether of those two are the most trusted.