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    Polls show support for public option for health care

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...barack-obamas/

    Fire away guys.
    Let me see your polls Just Sirius.

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    As you can see I led off with the most critical analysis of an ad related to the polls on the public option. Read the very bottom where they talk about
    the new Cbs/Nytimes poll. I will now actually post polls.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/he...poll.html?_r=1

    Just Sirius where are your polls?

    Another poll this time from NBC/WALL STREET JOURNAL in case you
    want to claim a CBS/NYTIMES poll can't be accurate.

    Remember guys we are talking about a public OPTION. Meaning you still get to keep your private health care if you wish. Good ole fashion American competition.

    Have a great weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloyd Handwerker View Post
    As you can see I led off with the most critical analysis of an ad related to the polls on the public option. Read the very bottom where they talk about
    the new Cbs/Nytimes poll. I will now actually post polls.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/he...poll.html?_r=1

    Just Sirius where are your polls?

    Another poll this time from NBC/WALL STREET JOURNAL in case you
    want to claim a CBS/NYTIMES poll can't be accurate.

    Remember guys we are talking about a public OPTION. Meaning you still get to keep your private health care if you wish. Good ole fashion American competition.

    Have a great weekend!

    American competition? Do you really think that government provided health care is going to promote competition? Government health care can run in the red and has little to worry about costs. Private health care does not have this advantage. So ultimately you have government health care destroying the private sector due to having an unfair advantage. Hardly a competitive system...

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    I got your pole right here!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lloyd Handwerker View Post
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...barack-obamas/

    Fire away guys.
    Let me see your polls Just Sirius.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...urance_company

    Oh, yeah!! And according to the CBO, Your emperor has no clothes!!!
    http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=328

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    dread, and we dont even get into the questions that are asked in the polls that the twit likes to show. I have to ask how many people would be in favor of this if they knew that once they leave their old policy then they cannot get a new one but will be forced into the governments program. I would like to see what the percentage of people that would be infavor if asked do you want to be forced into the governments program? That is the problem with these polls, it is the questions asked and the ONLY answers that can be given in them.

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    John,i'm an independent Republican leaning centrist and want to ask a couple of questions before i give my opinion on so called National Healthcare.

    1.Do you think everyone should have Healthcare?

    2.How would you accomplish this goal, if so.?

    3.Do you agree with state legislatures making Car insurance mandatory.

    4.What do you think of Medicare and Medicaid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM View Post
    John,i'm an independent Republican leaning centrist and want to ask a couple of questions before i give my opinion on so called National Healthcare.

    1.Do you think everyone should have Healthcare?

    2.How would you accomplish this goal, if so.?

    3.Do you agree with state legislatures making Car insurance mandatory.

    4.What do you think of Medicare and Medicaid?
    I will throw my hat into this ring!!!

    Question 1, and its a loaded question!!
    Everyone should have access to affordable health insurance, its not a RIGHT. Destroying the private sector and individual liberty/choice is not the answer.
    To answer question 2, it is my personal opinion to reform Tort, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort_reform
    The ambulance chasers are driving up health insurance costs in my humble opinion.

    Question 3, absolutely NO!! Its Unconstitutional on a national level, if individual states want to enact the policy, and I don't agree with it. I should have the option to move to a state that is more friendly to me. So yes and no, its a state issue!!!! I frown upon states that enact these policies. Federalism is how this country is suppose to function, not totalitarianism.

    Medicare/medicaid
    Both are bankrupt along with social security, we have all paid into these programs that have devolved into scams. Ponzi schemes are all these add up to. As an American, I know how to spend my money much better and more efficiently, than this tryanny that has been thrust upon us by a 52.3% vote.

    Why doesn't this current administration fix, or attempt to fix medicare/medicaid before destroying the private sector?

    Because the current administration wants to destroy the private sector, its not about fixing anything, its about destroying individuals liberties!!

    I smell a drone here with the loaded questions!!!

    If your not, then prove it!!!

    There is nothing WRONG with our health care system, it is far from perfect but, it is the best by far in the world!!! That is why people from around the world come here to be treated!!!!

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    Be polite and professional when you call to vote NO!!!

    Don't want government run health care?

    Call 202-225-3121 and tell the 7 Blue Dogs on Energy and Commerce to vote NO.

    Reps. John Barrow (D-Ga.)
    Bart Gordon (D-Tenn.)
    Baron Hill (D-Ind.)
    Jim Matheson (D-Utah)
    Charlie Melancon (D-La.)
    Mike Ross (D-Ark)
    Zack Space (D-Ohio)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dread View Post
    I will throw my hat into this ring!!!

    Question 1, and its a loaded question!!
    Everyone should have access to affordable health insurance, its not a RIGHT. Destroying the private sector and individual liberty/choice is not the answer.
    To answer question 2, it is my personal opinion to reform Tort, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort_reform
    The ambulance chasers are driving up health insurance costs in my humble opinion.

    Question 3, absolutely NO!! Its Unconstitutional on a national level, if individual states want to enact the policy, and I don't agree with it. I should have the option to move to a state that is more friendly to me. So yes and no, its a state issue!!!! I frown upon states that enact these policies. Federalism is how this country is suppose to function, not totalitarianism.

    Medicare/medicaid
    Both are bankrupt along with social security, we have all paid into these programs that have devolved into scams. Ponzi schemes are all these add up to. As an American, I know how to spend my money much better and more efficiently, than this tryanny that has been thrust upon us by a 52.3% vote.

    Why doesn't this current administration fix, or attempt to fix medicare/medicaid before destroying the private sector?

    Because the current administration wants to destroy the private sector, its not about fixing anything, its about destroying individuals liberties!!

    I smell a drone here with the loaded questions!!!

    If your not, then prove it!!!

    There is nothing WRONG with our health care system, it is far from perfect but, it is the best by far in the world!!! That is why people from around the world come here to be treated!!!!
    Dread,not a drone at all,just someone who is 50 years old and paying $1417 a month for BLUE Cross for family of 3 and i am a results oriented person,meaning i've heard your arguments since Reagan years and they clearly don't work..Medicare is the best run Gov't program ever created in this country,it actually works,as i can attest to by my parents..They pay $450 a month and they are in the high end user market,meaning all insurance rates are based on what and how much treatment you will suck out of the pool of insured,now medicare is not going broke,Medicaid is driving that,this is why they broke it down into 2 seperate payroll deductions from your pay.
    The purpose of my high monthly premium is based on me paying more now so that when i get older and use and need more care it balances out,but guess what,i'll never collect off of BC because i'll be in Medicare...So now the insurance companies,which most are suppose to be non-profit with major tax breaks,are sitting on a pile of cash and raising premiums to unsustainable rates..They also tried to switch to for-profit to get that cash before the gov't plan goes into effect..
    You are correct about the care being the best in the world,but it is the institution of delivering the payment for it that is broken..
    do iwant gov't controlled heathcare,NO WAY,but the bully pulpit of gov't is what is needed to get some kind of national rates for everyone to be covered.
    it is Bankrupting the states, cities and corporate world...
    Don't have all the answers,but something radical needs to happen soon or the financial crissis of last 2 years will seem like a minor rain storm IMHO.

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