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  1. sxminvestor is offline
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    04-17-2009, 08:57 AM #11
    My Etrade shows that .50 was hit premarket.

    Did anyone see this happen & was it one of those fluke trades or was it actually trading up there ?

    .44 - .45 now at 5:57 or 8:57 eastern

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    04-17-2009, 09:01 AM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by sxminvestor View Post
    My Etrade shows that .50 was hit premarket.

    Did anyone see this happen & was it one of those fluke trades or was it actually trading up there ?

    .44 - .45 now at 5:57 or 8:57 eastern
    Pre-Market
    Time (ET) Pre-Market
    Price Pre-Market
    Share Volume
    08:00 $ .43 500
    08:00 $ .43 900
    08:00 $ .43 2,300
    08:00 $ .43 1,745
    08:00 $ .43 555
    08:00 $ .43 145
    08:00 $ .43 4,000
    08:00 $ .43 5,821
    08:00 $ .44 4,179
    08:00 $ .44 281
    08:00 $ .44 719
    08:00 $ .44 18,119
    08:00 $ .44 1,881
    08:00 $ .425 300
    08:00 $ .44 821
    08:00 $ .44 2,179
    08:00 $ .44 2,821
    08:00 $ .44 2,179
    07:56 $ .449 1,100
    07:55 $ .44 100
    07:32 $ .449 100
    07:32 $ .44 100
    07:28 $ .45 100
    07:17 $ .47 100
    07:16 $ .4599 100
    07:16 $ .4599 100
    07:14 $ .458 500
    07:14 $ .50 5,000
    07:14 $ .458 4,000
    07:14 $ .458 4,000
    07:14 $ .458 1,000
    07:14 $ .44 100
    07:14 $ .50 500
    07:14 $ .50 4,000

    07:14 $ .45 100
    07:14 $ .44 100
    07:14 $ .43 100
    07:14 $ .43 100
    07:14 $ .42 100
    07:14 $ .44 100
    07:14 $ .44 3,200
    07:14 $ .44 6,600
    07:10 $ .4599 100
    07:10 $ .47 100
    07:10 $ .4599 100
    07:09 $ .45 100
    07:09 $ .45 400
    07:09 $ .45 100
    07:09 $ .45

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    04-17-2009, 09:01 AM #13
    wow cant believe we hit .50 pre hopefully we can get there during reg hours as well, good morning julie, the diff between a cheetah and a horse is stamina, a cheetah is super fast but they cant run for long beofre they run out of gas. While a horse has more staying power, so what im saying is lol that i want this up move to be steady and stable rather than a huge run that doesnt last.

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    04-17-2009, 09:03 AM #14
    who thinks those are shorts initiating a new position, large trades way above the ask always makes me think it might be a short opening a new pos

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    04-17-2009, 09:05 AM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by tim wallick View Post
    heres a friendly piece from adage..

    I agree with it in the context of going forward into the digital landscape for content do to the simple fact of all the related copyrights issues.Couple with the current ongoing decline in most forms of legacy broadcasting and their revenues. Siriusxm must engage and embrace the public within the context of the real art form of radio on a national basis.

    If satrad has been playing a waiting game trying to time the launch of real action which could position it as a primary content provider today may well be the day to start. enough time has been wasted waiting to move forward into the digital age.

    on another note i read a bit yesterday where one of the old famous am radio stations went dark after about fifty years. even read where many am or fm stations for sale have no buyers looking even at greatly reduced prices.

    in 2001 the value of seven hundred stations sold was in excess of five billion dollars, the almost like amount of station sales in 2008 had a value of just over 700 million dollars.

    I think another round of station fallout will take place with the onset of copyright fees for some of old broadcasters which should or could help siriusxm if they have done the correct footwork for digital life.

    Radio, Radio: How to Bring Credibility Back
    Marketers, Audiences Still Need a Medium With Human Touch, Local AwarenessPosted by Jon Cohen on 04.16.09 @ 01:30 PM



    Jon Cohen
    In a time when we live our media lives huddled around web browsers and staring at our phones, what is the relevance of broadcast radio to marketers?

    I grew up listening and loving local radio -- Howard Stern on WNBC and -Rock, WLIR on Long Island and DJ Red Alert's show on Kiss FM NYC. Those were the stations that introduced me to The Clash, The Beastie Boys, Run DMC, Kenneth Keith Kallenbach and other legends. The DJs knew everything about the artists they introduced, and the stations took risks and were at the center of what was going on culturally. Local radio introduced us to the music we came to love and the brands we came to desire, and personalities like Howard Stern single-handedly built brands (i.e. Snapple) with a command of their audiences.

    I am listening to Pandora as I write this; it's learned what I like, and I can skip what I don't. Musically, it's close to my perfect radio station. There are other amazing, similar sites (Lala, Last FM, Spotify, etc.) and, while you listen, you can browse the internet and learn more than ever before about the bands you are hearing. IPhone apps have even made the entire experience portable, but something is still missing: I still do not feel like I am really listening to the radio. As a listener, there is no soul behind the music I am hearing, and, as a consumer, the static ads or pre-rolls for the Brita water filter do not engage me. Local radio had a personality that has not been captured and duplicated online ... yet.

    There is no substitute for the element of surprise, hearing that great new track within the context of other songs on the radio. There's a certain credibility in hearing someone knowledgeable talk up and introduce you to a new band, but, as Elvis Costello so eloquently forecasted in his song "Radio, Radio," the commercialization of radio has nearly destroyed all that was great about the medium. Many of today's stations are programmed centrally, voice-tracked remotely, and, from an advertising standpoint, sold from a central office by people with little first-hand knowledge of the market the client is trying to reach. Listenership is down, and advertising dollars continue to shift from radio to online efforts. The listener/consumer is no longer engaged in radio as a mass medium.

    That said, when it's done right, radio can still mean a lot to the engaged listener, and it can have a powerful impact for a marketer. Radio can round out a campaign and provide a local call-to-action that digital cannot. The evolution of radio continues to be exciting despite the fact that it has been overshadowed by the growth of the iPod and the mobile internet experience. New iPhone apps are creating great opportunities for radio stations to be heard in the context of today's new media landscape (check out Public Radio Tuner, AOL Radio, etc.). I listen to Sirius XM (Left of Center Blog Radio rules), stream KCRW, The Current in Minneapolis and BBC Radio 1 from the UK.

    Great radio is still out there, it is just overshadowed by the perception that all commercial radio is "the same" and dying. Podcasts, Sirius Radio and streaming radio offer a great future, and there continue to be powerful local stations that Cornerstone will continue to make an important part of our marketing mix, like Hot 97/NYC, Live 105/San Francisco, KROQ/Los Angeles, KPWR/Los Angeles, etc. But for media to succeed in today's world, it needs to provide convenience and a function based on today's technology, and most importantly be entertaining, have a credible voice and unparalleled quality. Most major local radio stations continue to lag behind on technology and continue to eliminate the programming and personalities that at one time made their medium powerful.

    Radio must keep up and determine the right way to deliver smart, engaging content, or it will be faced with a younger generation that is growing up without ever experiencing its brilliance.

    ~ ~ ~
    Jon Cohen is co-CEO of Cornerstone, a full-service lifestyle-marketing firm based in New York. For more than 12 years, Mr. Cohen has executed customized brand campaigns for a roster of A-list clients targeting the key demographic of 15- to 34-year-olds.
    Tim, That was great info!!!

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    04-17-2009, 09:06 AM #16
    nothing wrong with hitting .50 I'm hoping to stay on the plus side of .40 from now on.

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    04-17-2009, 09:08 AM #17
    I forgot this SP is going up without mentioning the iPhone application. I'm so excited to see the price go when that news comes out. I have to hit a sp of 4.08 to become a 100kaire if thats even a word! I'm so excited for sirius.

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    04-17-2009, 09:09 AM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusXMInvestor View Post
    Pre-Market
    Time (ET) Pre-Market
    Price Pre-Market
    Share Volume
    08:00 $ .43 500
    08:00 $ .43 900
    08:00 $ .43 2,300
    08:00 $ .43 1,745
    08:00 $ .43 555
    08:00 $ .43 145
    08:00 $ .43 4,000
    08:00 $ .43 5,821
    08:00 $ .44 4,179
    08:00 $ .44 281
    08:00 $ .44 719
    08:00 $ .44 18,119
    08:00 $ .44 1,881
    08:00 $ .425 300
    08:00 $ .44 821
    08:00 $ .44 2,179
    08:00 $ .44 2,821
    08:00 $ .44 2,179
    07:56 $ .449 1,100
    07:55 $ .44 100
    07:32 $ .449 100
    07:32 $ .44 100
    07:28 $ .45 100
    07:17 $ .47 100
    07:16 $ .4599 100
    07:16 $ .4599 100
    07:14 $ .458 500
    07:14 $ .50 5,000
    07:14 $ .458 4,000
    07:14 $ .458 4,000
    07:14 $ .458 1,000
    07:14 $ .44 100
    07:14 $ .50 500
    07:14 $ .50 4,000

    07:14 $ .45 100
    07:14 $ .44 100
    07:14 $ .43 100
    07:14 $ .43 100
    07:14 $ .42 100
    07:14 $ .44 100
    07:14 $ .44 3,200
    07:14 $ .44 6,600
    07:10 $ .4599 100
    07:10 $ .47 100
    07:10 $ .4599 100
    07:09 $ .45 100
    07:09 $ .45 400
    07:09 $ .45 100
    07:09 $ .45
    How does a .50 trade get pulled off when the bid/ask is 4 cents away when it happenned ?

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    04-17-2009, 09:17 AM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by julietoo View Post
    Good Morning Tim,

    Great article! Thanks for posting it.
    Hope you have a good Friday.

    Julie
    hi, good luck to all

    heres another report some may find interesting

    The Infinite Dial 2009 - PresentationEntry by Tom Webster Apr. 16, 2009 Permalink The Infinite Dial 2009: Radio's Digital Platforms, the latest study by Edison Research and Arbitron, is the 17th in our series of investigations of the Internet and new media's impact on radio, revealing significant growth for a variety of technologies.

    We update the status of radio's new digital platforms (online radio, satellite radio, HD Radio, and podcasting among others), social networks, online video, iPhones, and implications for broadcasters, advertisers, and media planners.
    Download the Infinite Dial 2009 Presentation here.
    heres one of the sites i follow, as ken is honest about the industry to the point of being blunt.

    heres another bit where the company kens with, put real radio people back to work online so change is coming to the internet in the context of real radio
    Last edited by tim wallick; 04-17-2009 at 09:30 AM. Reason: add some other information/link

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    04-17-2009, 09:17 AM #20
    sirixminvestor...comment about CNBC host...retesting the lows. I have been saying this for months, we will retest the lows. Nothing around us has changed for the better...its all fluff. Believe it or not the first round of earnings were all bs. GS, JPM, Wells...the real earnings season is going to be a disaster and the forward looking statements, if given, will be gloomy. The fact about the housing market that still remains is the 2 trillion dollars of toxic/bad debt floating around and it will land on someones books. We are in a bear market rally and I would advise everyone to take profits. The next leg down could be vicious.

    Good luck all,

    I swung siri three times this week for about 2k...not to shabby, only 10k left.

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