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  1. kingreecan is offline
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    03-13-2009, 01:42 PM #1111

    Question to the gang...

    What does trading in 100 or 200 share blocks have bearing on? Mogami (a few entries above) indicated that he/she is seeing these blocks of trades as 'trying to stop us'.
    Just looking for knowledge...

    KR

  2. SiriusHope is offline
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    03-13-2009, 01:46 PM #1112
    Brandon or anyone...do we have to be over 1.00 pps to trade in penny increments? Presently this .0001 is really bullshit amounts in trades.

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    03-13-2009, 01:47 PM #1113
    Quote Originally Posted by kingreecan View Post
    What does trading in 100 or 200 share blocks have bearing on? Mogami (a few entries above) indicated that he/she is seeing these blocks of trades as 'trying to stop us'.
    Just looking for knowledge...

    KR
    It means the MM's rather then move on to real bids at higher price keep throwing their shares in at lower bids to halt the advance. hope to make people waiting to sell higher get nervous and take the lower price.

  4. SiriuslyGay is offline
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    03-13-2009, 01:48 PM #1114
    Hmmmm. *waits for the 2PM selloff*

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    03-13-2009, 01:50 PM #1115
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallep View Post
    Just not enough money. Student loans are a bitch.
    Ok I see ... i was just noting you said you wish you had put more money in when you did buy. That indicated to me you had more money to invest. Bad assumtion on me I to am out of money to invest in spec stocks. So we are both All in.

    of course if I was SURE it would be $1 by years end I might liquidate my regular positions and buy more ... but this stock still isnt trading reasonably. maybe after Q1 although I suspect it will Q2 before it settles down.
    I think it will trend up till then ... 2 steps forward 1-1.5 steps back. But I have no idea .. the only prediction I got right on this stock was no BK in feb or march .....
    Last edited by airman; 03-13-2009 at 01:54 PM.

  6. TWAsiri is offline
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    03-13-2009, 01:50 PM #1116
    Thanks Brandon.

    New question and I'm open to input from Rel, Cos, sl62, 888's, Homer and any others that might be able to lead me in the right direction. As I've stated before, I'm a rookie at trading, but am committed to increasing my knowledge. I've learned far more than I ever thought I would in the last few months just by purchasing Sirius and reading these posts every day. Any suggested reading material, online classes, etc that might help me further my knowledge base in a less stressful manner? Any advice would be much appreciated.

  7. cos1000 is offline
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    03-13-2009, 01:53 PM #1117
    A lot of those 100 and 200 lots are partial orders also.... Most traders who can trade in 4 decimal places can see the prices set by these 100 and 200 bids are there and ignore them... The most effective use I've seen by the MM's is for them to set up a wall of these multiple small orders at the last tenth of a cent (.1990-.1999) to block the next whole cent, .20 trade by retail 2 decimal place buyers out... They do the same on the way down (.1901-.1910) which keeps retailers with GTC orders at .19 out . They painstakingly do this at every break price they can to control their own trading agendas..

  8. buddylee is offline
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    03-13-2009, 01:54 PM #1118
    It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses. Money itself isn't lost or made, it's simply transferred from one perception to another.

  9. mogami is offline
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    03-13-2009, 01:55 PM #1119
    Quote Originally Posted by cos1000 View Post
    A lot of those 100 and 200 lots are partial orders also.... Most traders who can trade in 4 decimal places can see the prices set by these 100 and 200 bids are there and ignore them... The most effective use I've seen by the MM's is for them to set up a wall of these multiple small orders at the last tenth of a cent (.1990-.1999) to block the next whole cent, .20 trade by retail 2 decimal place buyers out... They do the same on the way down (.1901-.1910) which keeps retailers with GTC orders at .19 out . They painstakingly do this at every break price they can to control their own trading agendas..

    Hi, On level II they are showing as 100 share bids, or 100 share asks. Always lower then what traded right before them.
    Partial trades show by subtracting from the larger share number (example ask is 30,000 shares at .1800 when 200 are sold ask goes to 29800 shares at .1800)

  10. Sundevil is offline
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    03-13-2009, 01:55 PM #1120
    Yum, Yum, Yum...Just got back from lunch and we're movin toward pushin the 20 cent ceiling....Come on, come on, Come ON!!! (Slapin that hip!)

    **Maybe this new pic of Sparky Forkin the Dog will inspire some upward movement!!**