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  1. Demian is offline
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    11-20-2008, 09:36 AM #111
    Pre-Market Trade Reporting

    Pre-Market
    Last: $ .17
    Pre-Market
    High: $ .175
    Pre-Market
    Volume: 62,857
    Pre-Market
    Low: $ .15

    08:29 $ .17 1,350
    08:23 $ .17 1,000
    08:22 $ .169 9,400
    08:19 $ .169 8,300
    08:19 $ .169 2,300
    08:17 $ .169 100
    08:17 $ .169 100
    08:11 $ .17 5,875
    08:10 $ .17 1,300
    08:10 $ .17 500
    08:07 $ .17 590
    08:07 $ .17 1,910
    08:06 $ .17 870
    08:06 $ .17 1,190
    08:06 $ .17 2,350
    08:05 $ .17 1,001
    08:05 $ .17 294
    08:05 $ .17 590
    08:05 $ .17 1,470
    08:05 $ .17 4,000
    08:05 $ .17 1,500
    08:05 $ .17 1,145
    08:05 $ .17 665
    08:03 $ .174 502
    08:03 $ .17 1,539
    08:03 $ .17 3,999
    08:02 $ .175 1,600
    08:00 $ .16 1,000
    08:00 $ .15 1,998
    08:00 $ .17 335
    08:00 $ .17 1,000
    08:00 $ .17 625
    08:00 $ .17 461
    08:00 $ .174 1,998

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    11-20-2008, 09:52 AM #112
    Quote Originally Posted by tim wallick View Post
    the fed claims this global mess will continue till at least the 3rdq of 09 prior to turning,for America. I suspect they are wrong and they change the forecast shortly.

    i just see more pain for the stock holders.Our government knew without doubt this was coming and was driven by oil when oil began its rise and Mr bush then went on record "soft selling," the pain to come for the American economy and people. and we could afford a hundred dollars a barrel oil was a major mistake imho.

    they had the available data and all historical insight,which clearly painted a bad picture for the effects on the working class and American economy.They just forgot to tell us honestly of what most likely would develop and how far we were already into the process then. and what further pain to expect.

    the only thing which will save Sirius is the relationships made and built by management with banking/street, if they have any real business friends that honestly don't want to snatch the company from out of current managements hands.

    I'm sure at least one of the old broadcasters would love to control the system platform for use as a national broadcast system which could include local content when controlled by them.

    I would also think car sales in the fourth quarter really plunge.

    as more information slowly comes out of Washington and explains its going to be a longer path to correcting the economy more hope is lost, generating more downward pressure.

    and Internet radio in the dash is getting closer every day.

    I said early in 2004 Sirius and xm should have embraced each other then in all operational areas they could, to share as many cost burdens across the board.then honestly took the battle to old broadcasters.

    which i think would have been ok within the framework of the fcc license for satellite radio. as long as they could show it was a benefit to the public and company if any questions surfaced do to the combined efforts.
    Futures plunge, -233 below fair value !!!. Record High Jobless claims, above forecast. Siri last premarket trade: below .16 (.158).

    The FED signals more base rate cuts. It may help but I am worried about next year. They do not have enough meat in the base rate to carry us thru the entire 2009 !!! heck, they will not have enough to carry us thru the end of 2008 !!!

    I was going to recommend shorting stocks but that is not for amateurs. You will lose your shirt, your car, your house, your ASS!!! quicker than from owning the stocks, although these days it don't really matter.

    I predict Siri will close in the .12-.13 range today.
    Last edited by Siriusowner; 11-20-2008 at 10:01 AM.

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    11-20-2008, 10:32 AM #113
    Look at the my posts on daily trades this week they were all shorts. watch today .. this could be a whip saw day it has that feel to it.. im waiting for direction..siriusopened up .1668 Im betting we have a little rally before selling off at lows by end of day..

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    11-20-2008, 12:26 PM #114
    Quote Originally Posted by APEXSPORTS View Post
    Look at the my posts on daily trades this week they were all shorts. watch today .. this could be a whip saw day it has that feel to it.. im waiting for direction..siriusopened up .1668 Im betting we have a little rally before selling off at lows by end of day..
    It was at .14 last time I checked. I just hope they don't crack before the damn meeting in December. We are going to have to approve both damn measures, the reverse split and the dilution.

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    11-20-2008, 12:45 PM #115
    Some of these stock analysts are definetely lost these days.

    Thomson REUTERS had an Outperform or buy rating for Siri since... who know when, last year ???

    Then the damn stock tanked and suddenly Monday 11/17/2008 they had an underperform or sell rating !!!

    WHY ???? Do we buy high and sell low or what ? F$%$^ idiots...

    ...And today "EVERYONE", including REUTERS, has a neutral or hold !!!... which honestly, makes more sense but they should have had a SELL rating since last year, change to a HOLD after the merger and change to BUY once it hits 10 cents. Again, F#$%^ stupid morons, they are doing the same they did during the dot com crash, maintaining a BUY rating until the companies declare BK !!!

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    11-20-2008, 01:52 PM #116

    Breaking News....

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Bipart...-13633769.html

    Bipartisan group works to revive auto bailout
    Bipartisan group reaches last-ditch compromise for government auto industry aid

    Ken Thomas, Associated Press Writer
    Thursday November 20, 2008, 12:31 pm EST

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Aides to a bipartisan group of auto-state senators say they have reached a compromise to speed emergency loans to Detroit's Big Three car makers.

    Republicans and Democrats plan to present the proposal at a mid-afternoon news conference Thursday. But it was not immediately clear whether the compromise plan could draw enough support to get through a reluctant Senate.

    It temporarily would divert to troubled automakers money from a program that currently finances the development of fuel-efficient vehicles. The aim would be to cover their immediate expenses.


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    11-20-2008, 02:41 PM #118
    Well we got a small bailout that should stop the bleeding for now

    but wow what a pop.. from .143 to .158 wow were are you going to spend your money!!

    way to go mel make sure you dont talk or speak up about the stock and reasure holders

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    11-20-2008, 02:42 PM #119

    Warning I am not an advisor

    Don't listen to me because I am not a financial advisor, just throwing this out there...

    We only have to refinance 210 million! That is 90 million less than 2 months ago, the refinancing is being done. Mel could pay that off himself or amongst the board.

    I haven't read anything has changed that wasn't already forecasted.

    The fear of a reverse split is what is going to cause a reverse split (how stupid)

    So what the subscriber growth is slowing, look at the econmomy, its still growth!

    19 million subscribers, next year profits.

    Again, Im probably a moron here but I say close your eyes and cross you fingers that this is not real.

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    11-20-2008, 03:09 PM #120
    All these BK rumors I'm hearing are making me angry. They make it sound like BK could happen at any moment - it's total BS. You have got 210 million due in Feb. '09 - they have more than enough cash on hand to pay that off and they are going into what has been the best quarter of the year for them. Q4 will generate positive cash flow - like it has in the past. Then comes the May debt - which will likely be extended or refinanced. They will have cash to deal with that too from the added synergy savings that will continue to accelerate in the next few months. They have got several months and the environment should be friendlier by then.......

    A lot of horrible things would have to happen for BK to be an issue......and even if they did, it wouldn't be an issue for several months.

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