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What about using the internet as a tool to get people to subscribe in the car? Isnt the internet profitable when you charge $13 a month to use it? What is wrong with that model?



Are you saying...

I am going to ask this for a third time because I am still interested (in regards to their internet/tech presence.
"So, in your opinion... what are they waiting for? Do you think they are doing all...

Still curious "So, in your opinion... what are they waiting for? Do you think they are doing all they can at this point? I am curious to get another persons take on this who sees the big picture a...

Sounds good to me. The end result means that its in car, the internet, and cell phones. Everyone is a winner. If for no other reason then a means to the end of getting people to listen in cars, they...

Isnt this about the twice.com article? I dont understand the tangent you are on.

That said, people come along and sweep very competent people off their pedestals all the time. Think of the...

What question is this answering? I understand how it works. The only point I have made from the jump is that people pay for TV...more-so then those who simply watch it for free.

Personally I think Mel is a bit of an old school fuddy duddy but, I am glad he thinks that cars are the answer. All I am saying is that it my opinion that he is leaving a huge untapped market on the...

That is fine, I didnt think that was the issue we were discussing. Isn't the issue at hand the internet?



Most cars are coming equipped with aux jacks and all aftermarket radios already have...

Please stop what? I dont know what that has to do with anything. People are paying to watch free TV stations. How does that change anything? Again, more people pay for TV then those who don't. Also...

Yet more people pay for TV then those who don't in the US. Which was all that I was saying.



That may be so but you still aren't addressing the fact that more people pay for TV in the US then...

Most American homes have some form of pay TV (cable, satellite) vs free TV. How did the pay version surpass free?

I am surprised that you think a pay service cant beat out a free service...isn't...

You dont have to be first to market but if you are not, be prepared to be the best or spend a ton of money. Sirius XM is doing neither of those things. Blockbuster tried to move into the online dvd...

They should take them on. Its very little risk and technologically its easy to get into. I mean, they offer internet radio now... its just sub par. For some reason their whole org does not move...

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It would probably be more accurate to call them "users" but some of them are paying. That total is total users which encompases both ad supported and premium users.
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They are listening for free and Pandora is still making money off of them. Call them what you will but it is working for them.

With the new royalty structure they are no logner hemoridging money...

It is a minuscule company with far less staff, tech, and debt...yet they have more subscribers (and they are adding new ones at an alarming rate). That is what worries me and should worry Sirius XM...

Have you read about Pandora's numbers? They are set to be profitable this year and beyond. Before this year and some of Pandora's recent statements by their CEO, I would have agreed wholeheartedly...

Hopefully Sirius XM (and their shareholders) will listen to Amy... God knows they didn't listen to me 2+ years ago when I said the same thing she is saying now.