Originally Posted by
lloyd Handwerker
Clean diesel is considerably cleaner than older diesel and yes it is worth it. That is why they score at the top of any list for saving money. look it up on google if you dont believe me.
Its a 5 year study because they started the study 5 years ago. Next year it will be 6 and before you know it 10 and then you wont be able to argue your points anymore. Yipee! :D It has ABSOLUTEY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AGE OF THE BATTERIES. Thats whats meant by a wing and a prayer. And you call yourself a good debater? LOL.
Intellichoice has long argued that hybrids are money savers based on their studies. So therefore you discount the study without looking at the factual elements of the study. If you want to discount all their factual information just because they support green cars go ahead.The fact is they are THE LEADING researcher on the subject of car costs. I knew you wouldnt believe whatever i supplied you with so you just proved my point.
I have always lumped clean diesel, hybrids, plug-in hybrids, and electrics in my predictions for the future. Since you dont like this study you draw attention to diesels as somehow something that shouldnt be included. Very cute. You are sounding a wee bit defensive. Getting down off your high horse just a little bit now heh? Just look at the info on hybrids if you want and ignore the info on diesels.
The study doesnt include hybrid-plug-ins which are comings soon and get much more mileage to the gallon than hybrids. Lets see how that plays out. Cant wait to see how long it will take for them to be cost effective.
You base so much of your argument on hybrid batteries lasting only 5 years and you are so obviously wrong about that fact. You should replug a new number into your calculations.
What do you think somewhat means? look at the study it shows you the variance in savings from vehicle to vehicle.
I am close minded? No au contraire. I want cars of the future to get better mileage, be cleaner and to be cheaper as well. I look at the studies to see if that is all possible. What i find that it is possible today and getting better and better each and every day. i base my beliefs on facts and i supply them to you. You seem afraid to accept them. You seem to be rooting against all the new clean technologies and i really dont understand why.